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I cannot let this insult against my native language slide /m n mʲ nʲ/ <m n m n> /p t k pʲ tʲ kʲ/ <p t k p t k> /b d g bʲ dʲ gʲ/ <b d g b d g> /ts tɕ/ <c č> /f s ʂ ɕː x/ <f s š sč h> /fʲ sʲ/ <f s> /v z ʐ/ <v z ž> /vʲ zʲ/ <v z> /r l j/ <r l j> /rʲ lʲ/ <r l> /á é í ó ú/ <a e i o u> /a i u/ <a i u> Pala...

You should have posted a passage in Irish with phonemes! Couldn't really find one that was in IPA, and I'm not gonna try to pretend I can descipher Irish orthography into phonemes. Umm you posted this complete with multiple /o/'s in a word without marking stress; could you add stress to your passag...

Now, a language with a phonology as beautiful as its writing system is ugly: /ɡeːlʲɟə/ /m mʲ n nʲ ŋ ɲ /p pʲ t tʲ k c/ /b bʲ d dʲ ɡ ɟ/ /f fʲ s ʃ x ç h/ /w vʲ ɣ j/ /ɾ ɾʲ l lʲ/ /i a u e o/ + lenɡth ~~~~ And fuck it, why not another one with pervasive palatalisation, except this one's IRL writing system...

/fʁɑ̃sɛ/ <Franse> Consonants /m n ɲ (ŋ)/ <m n ñ (n)> /p t k/ <p t k> /b d ɡ/ <b d g> /f s ʃ/ <f s x> /v z ʒ/ <v z j> /ʁ l j ɥ w/ <r l i ü u> Suppressed consonants and schwas aren't written at all. Vowels /a ɛ i œ ø y ɔ o u ə/ <a e i ö ö ü o o u a> /ɛ̃ ɑ̃ ɔ̃/ <en an on> /ɛː ɑ œ̃/ <e a ön> Sample tex...

Darren wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:09 am Is this slavic? If so then perhaps

Descended from Russian with some Ukrainian and Polish mixed in. So yes, technically.

Another lang of mine, same family as the last one: /aw seeɾetˢi neⁿwaj/ /pᶲ tˢ tʃᶴ kˣ/ /p~m t~ɾ~n tʃ~ɲ ts k~ŋ/ /t’ ts’ tʃ’ k’/ /ɓ ɗ ʄ/ /w j/ /i a u e o/ +lonɡ +nasal A phonetic <ʔ> is inserted between phonemic vowels bordering each other. Tenuis plosives are voiced intervocalically and turn into nas...

I'm playing with a conlang where the single alveolar stop has lenited to [ts] in onset and coda and to [r] intervocalically, leaving [t] only in the geminated [tː], the realisation of /pt tt kt/ sequences. This sounds very similar to my dialect of English, where /t/ is [ɾ] intervocalically and [tˢ]...

Tserzou <Цэрзоу> /p pʼ b t tʼ d ts tsʼ dz tɬ tɬʼ dɮ k kʼ g qʼ ʔ/ <п пъ б т тъ д ц цъ ӡ ч чъ џ к къ г ӄ ъ> /ɸ β s z ɬ l x ɣ χ ʁ/ <ф в с з ш л х ҕ ӽ р> /m n ŋ/ <м н ӈ> Short vowels: /ɛ œ ə ɪ ʏ/ <е ё э ы ю> Long vowels: /æ̠ a o̯æ̠ u̯a/ <я а оя уа> /ʌ̠ o̯ʌ̠ ɔ/ <аа оаа оо> /eɛ̯ øɶ̯/ <ее оё> /ɛɪ œʏ ɔu/ <е...

Are there any languages without or with few phonetic alveolar or dental stops?

I'm playing with a conlang where the single alveolar stop has lenited to [ts] in onset and coda and to [r] intervocalically, leaving [t] only in the geminated [tː], the realisation of /pt tt kt/ sequences.

/pʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ <p t c k> [p m t n ɾ ɾ̃ tʃ ɲ k ŋ] <p m t n r n j ñ g ŋ> /ts tɬ/ <z dl> /f s ʃ ɬ x h/ <f s sh hl gh h> /j w/ <y w> /a e i o u/ <a e i o u> * <a aa ã ãã> I like this one. Here's my own: /pʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ <p ts tx k> [p m t n ɾ ɾ̃ tʃ ɲ k ŋ] <b/m d/t/n/r dx/ñ g/ğ> /ts tɬ/ <ds tł> /f s ʃ ɬ...

/pʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ/
/p~m t~n~ɾ~ɾ̃ tʃ~ɲ k~ŋ/
/ts tɬ/
/f s ʃ ɬ x h/
/j w/

/a e i o u/ + long + nasal for a 4-way contrast.

CVC, nasal allophones invariably precede nasal vowels.

Atrocity.txt (^: I have to confess, this is the absolute worst romanisation possible for Russian, no contest. My brain is bleeding. I mean, fricken Polish orthography with no alterations would look better: W pustynie czachłoj i skupoj, na poczwie, znojem raskalennoj, anczar, kak groznyj czasovoj, s...

Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:07 pm

Knit Tie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:23 am And now let's try my native language.

/m mʲ n nʲ/
/p pʲ b bʲ t tʲ d dʲ k ɡ/
/ts tɕ/
/f fʲ v vʲ s sʲ z zʲ ʂ ʐ ɕ x/
/l lʲ r rʲ j/
/i a u e o/

Let me guess - your native language is Russian.

Yep

That was indeed Chechen. And now let's try my native language. /m mʲ n nʲ/ /p pʲ b bʲ t tʲ d dʲ k ɡ/ /ts tɕ/ /f fʲ v vʲ s sʲ z zʲ ʂ ʐ ɕ x/ /l lʲ r rʲ j/ /i a u e o/ And its hypothetical future version, for a conlang /m n ɲ ŋ/ /b p d~dʑ t~tɕ ɡ k/ /ts/ /f s~ʃ z~ʒ x/ /l ʎ r ɽ w j/ /i ɯ y u o ø e ə æ ɑ/

This one's actually a real language. m mˤ n nˤ b pʰ pː bˤ pˤ pːˤ pʼ d tʰ tː dˤ tˤ tːˤ tʼ ɡ kʰ kː kʼ qʰ qː qʼ ʡ ʔ dz dzˤ tsʰ tsː tsˤ tsːˤ tsʼ dʒ dʒˤ tʃʰ tʃˤ tʃʼ z zˤ s sˤ ʒ ʒˤ ʃ ʃˤ x ʜ h ʁ w wˤ l lˤ r̥ r rˤ j ɪ iː y yː ʊ uː je ie ɥø yø wo uo e̞ e̞ː ø øː o̞ o̞ː ə ɑː Clusters of /x l r/+ any consonants...

(Used ⁿ for nasalisation because the usual diacritic won't work on my keyboard) Old Suraic/Late Suraic Enɡlish (/ɨⁿlɨʃ lɛⁿwɨʒ/) /p b t̪ d̪ t~h d k~x g/ /tʃ dʒ/ /m n/ /f v s z ʃ ʒ/ /l ɾ ɹ j w/ /ɐ ɛ e i ɨ ʏ~œ u o ɔ e͡ɪ/ + nasal /ai oi au/ + nasal Middle Suraic (/s̪uɾajeʃ neⁿwɨʃ/) /p~b~m t̪~d̪~n̪ t~d~n...

Literary (koine) /ɛlaʃ s̺͇uɾajekɛʃ/ /p~m t̪~n̪ t̺͇~n̺͇ tʃ~ɲ k~ŋ/ /f s̪ s̺͇ ʃ x h/ /w j/ /ɾ l/ /i a e ɛ o u/ + nasal, /ɛ/ is much more common than /e/ (s̪)(C)(s̪,j,w)V(j,w)(C), but open syllables preferred Also, sample text for this one, with a nonstandard gloss showing what modern English morphemes...

And another 'lang, this time based on my native Russian, but after 2000 years in space. And some Polish. So Cyrillisation would also work, if you're feeling like it. /iloski izɤk/ /p b t d ts dz tʃ dʒ k ɡ/ /m n ɲ/ /f s z ʃ ʒ x/ /l ʎ r/ /ʋ j/ /æ ø ʏ i e ɑ o u ɤ/, with /ɤ/ beinɡ historically derived f...

Literary (koine) /ɛlaʃ s̺͇uɾajekɛʃ/ /p~m t̪~n̪ t̺͇~n̺͇ tʃ~ɲ k~ŋ/ /f s̪ s̺͇ ʃ x h/ /w j/ /ɾ l/ /i a e ɛ o u/ + nasal, /ɛ/ is much more common than /e/ (s̪)(C)(s̪,j,w)V(j,w)(C), but open syllables preferred Plosives and nasals are in a complimentary distribution: nasals are only found before nasal vow...

Are there sny languages with a voicing distinction where the voiced series is less marked and/or more numerous?