Zompist Bboard Again

bradrn

You can force the (4)-like reading if you whack a big pause in there: 3b. "We didn't see ... [suspenseful pause] only the Louvre" (expecting a response of "What the hell? That's like top two things to see when you're in Paris!") That's the meaning that (3) should by rights take,...

bradrn

Thinking about this a bit further, I think I can summarise the situation: We only didn’t see the Louvre means (for speakers who consider it valid) that we didn’t see the Louvre, but we did see the other sights. We didn’t only see the Louvre means that we did see the Louvre, but we also saw some othe...

bradrn

For me, the fun in conlanging lies in figuring out what I want, personally, and investigating the richness of language myself. Why would I get a computer to do the fun bits for me? (And, if I want to describe languages created by someone else, actual linguistic fieldwork would give me far more inter...

bradrn

“We only didn’t see the Louvre” needs no question mark from me—it’s perfectly licit. My takeaway would be that there was some list or set of things you visited on your trip or at least wanted to see, the Louvre being the only one you didn’t get to. (“We saw the Musée d’Orsay, the Arc de Triomphe, t...

bradrn

Ahzoh wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 9:36 pm I don't think this matter is all that subjective and willynilly.

This is linguistics! Assume absolutely every terminological choice is subjective and willynilly, until proven otherwise. ‘Counterfactual’ is a sufficiently old term that I wouldn’t assume it refers to a single coherent thing.

bradrn

I still can't figure out which clauses, the condition or the consequent, is supposed to be marked counterfactual and which is not. Or if they're both supposed to. [condition] [consequence] 1.a) [irrealis] [irrealis] 1.b) [irrealis] [counterfactual] 2.a) [irrealis] [irrealis] 2.b) [counterfactual] [...

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malloc wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 2:52 pm
bradrn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 1:10 pmAntepenultimate stress is something which a lot of theories have trouble with.
Yeah, there's a reason they call this phenomenon "stress" I suppose.

bradrn

masako wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 10:22 am just a Klingon script I'm working up

Reminds me of the Ithkuil script! (The name of which I’ve sadly forgotten.) How does this one work?

bradrn

I think you’re both right! Some parts of language are very conscious, and other parts are so automatic as to be practically invisible to the untrained speaker. I saw a neat example of this when I read about classifiers in Lao (in Enfield’s grammar). Lao has two classification systems: numeral classi...

bradrn

So… yeah, maybe you’re right, and I’m overthinking these questionable edge cases. (It is something I tend to do when thinking about syntax.) Oh, you're not alone. Any sentence, or word, can start to sound dubious if you stare at it too long. Actually, what I have is the opposite problem. Every sent...

bradrn

We didn’t see [only the Louvre]. ⇒ We only didn’t see the Louvre. Yet, the first sentence exists in surface structure with a completely different meaning! For you, that meaning is unambiguously different; for me it’s ambiguous, and can be the same under highly marked circumstances. But, apparently,...

bradrn

if memory serves, Bradrn has repeatedly pointed out not being a Zionist...thats kinda the point being made in rebuttal to your points. I don’t understand what you mean here. I most certainly consider myself a Zionist. Sorry...when i was typing, I couldn't recall if you were not a Zionist, or a Zion...

bradrn

Can you send the organizers a message explaining your situation? Orléans is quite close to Paris; if you're actually interested in the conference it seems a bit strange not to at least try to go... Hmm, fair point. Maybe I will. (Of course I can also understand not wanting to commit to something ex...

bradrn

Whaat, why miss out on that opportunity? Because I’m barely coping as-is, and I’m worried I won’t cope if I do anything more stressful on top of this. Is there some draconian punishment if you don't show up after having confirmed? Er… I doubt it! But surely the whole point of confirming your attend...

bradrn

I submitted a poster to ICON2024 (advertised earlier on this board), and my submission got accepted! Yet, I’m having second thoughts on whether to confirm my attendance or not. I’ve now been living in Paris for a month, and I‘m still struggling to get used to it; I’m not sure whether further travel...

bradrn

2) Related to point 1). If we learned something over the last ten years, it's that when women complain about sexism and sexual assault, you believe them (and in fact the reality is probably far worse.) Now, you know what? When Jews mention antisemitism, you believe them. I appreciate your support, ...

bradrn

it is perfectly understandable why someone whose people are being massacred would speak in anger against those who subscribe to the ideology that drives that massacre. violence, or the call to violence, against an oppressor by a member of the people it is oppressing is fundamentally, qualitatively ...

bradrn

In addition to all the violence I’ve already mentioned in my previous posts, which you clearly didn’t read. ok, fair enough, i hadn't. so i just did this and the closest thing to "violence" you brought up by protesters at american universities were not acts of physical violence but simply...

bradrn

the violence in the US demonstrations has been almost entirely instigated by zionists and police, not the protesters themselves, what the fuck are you talking about? I’m talking about, for instance, the way that they forcibly occupied a university building. In addition to all the violence I’ve alre...

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Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 9:55 am I implemented what I thought were continuations for zeptoscript..

Is this not a matter for the Computing thread?

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