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bradrn

Aww, pity, I got it wrong! The follow-up paper identifies the metre as iambic, not trochaic. Incidentally, if anyone feels in the mood for more poetry, I can refer them to the classic reference on dihalobenzene reactions — or any of the others in this vein . Or, for that matter, The 13 Clocks is a ...

bradrn

I’m curious how many people noticed that this paper… …is itself a great example of some prose in metric time? For it’s plain to see its rhythm is trochaic octameter, with the end of every sentence counting as a final rhyme. (Obviously alice has, but anyone else? If you haven’t, don’t spoil it by exp...

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I’m sorry, but this is not ‘latent’ antisemitism. This is antisemitism. ‘The Jews are coming to kill us all and replace us’ is one of the oldest and most persistent antisemitic canards there is. I’ve been the target of this accusation myself, long before the current events. You have missed Torco's ...

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Responding in reverse order: many jewish kids apparently come to patagonia after their period of exterminating palestininans on vacation, and plenty buy land there, and a lot of locals are starting to wonder are we going to start getting genocided in our own country too? israel started as zionists b...

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Also from the linked thread... In fact, 'apple' happens to be a Wanderwort found in several families, including IE itself (although somewhat disguised). :) What families? Why is the loanword hypothesis better than the idea that *h₂ébl̥/*h₂ébōl is an irregular metathesis of *méh₂lom, which has much ...

bradrn

Anti-semitism is specifically hatred of Jews. Which is why, incidentally, I always write it without a hyphen. It’s really not a great term: in fact its early use was mostly by antisemites themselves, who were looking for a more ‘scientific’ word than ‘Jew-hate’. The orthography of antisemitism is o...

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Ares Land wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 1:12 am Anti-semitism is specifically hatred of Jews.

Which is why, incidentally, I always write it without a hyphen. It’s really not a great term: in fact its early use was mostly by antisemites themselves, who were looking for a more ‘scientific’ word than ‘Jew-hate’.

bradrn

A sentence consists of a number of "root" words indicating weather and the speaker's mood. Sentences typically have 3 roots. Diverging from this pattern confers special significance. A number of prefixes and suffixes are added to these "roots" that communicate what humans think ...

bradrn

It's like, sure, I can absolutely have a voiced uvular stop in my language, but there are clear reasons why they are rare: uvulars retract the tongue root, while voicing advances it, creating an inherent articulatory contradiction. It’s worth noting that phonetics is unusual, in that (a) it’s firml...

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the violence in the US demonstrations has been almost entirely instigated by zionists and police, not the protesters themselves, what the fuck are you talking about? I’m talking about, for instance, the way that they forcibly occupied a university building. In addition to all the violence I’ve alre...

bradrn

You can force the (4)-like reading if you whack a big pause in there: 3b. "We didn't see ... [suspenseful pause] only the Louvre" (expecting a response of "What the hell? That's like top two things to see when you're in Paris!") That's the meaning that (3) should by rights take,...

bradrn

Thinking about this a bit further, I think I can summarise the situation: We only didn’t see the Louvre means (for speakers who consider it valid) that we didn’t see the Louvre, but we did see the other sights. We didn’t only see the Louvre means that we did see the Louvre, but we also saw some othe...

bradrn

For me, the fun in conlanging lies in figuring out what I want, personally, and investigating the richness of language myself. Why would I get a computer to do the fun bits for me? (And, if I want to describe languages created by someone else, actual linguistic fieldwork would give me far more inter...

bradrn

“We only didn’t see the Louvre” needs no question mark from me—it’s perfectly licit. My takeaway would be that there was some list or set of things you visited on your trip or at least wanted to see, the Louvre being the only one you didn’t get to. (“We saw the Musée d’Orsay, the Arc de Triomphe, t...

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Ahzoh wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 9:36 pm I don't think this matter is all that subjective and willynilly.

This is linguistics! Assume absolutely every terminological choice is subjective and willynilly, until proven otherwise. ‘Counterfactual’ is a sufficiently old term that I wouldn’t assume it refers to a single coherent thing.

bradrn

I still can't figure out which clauses, the condition or the consequent, is supposed to be marked counterfactual and which is not. Or if they're both supposed to. [condition] [consequence] 1.a) [irrealis] [irrealis] 1.b) [irrealis] [counterfactual] 2.a) [irrealis] [irrealis] 2.b) [counterfactual] [...

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malloc wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 2:52 pm
bradrn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 1:10 pmAntepenultimate stress is something which a lot of theories have trouble with.
Yeah, there's a reason they call this phenomenon "stress" I suppose.

bradrn

masako wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 10:22 am just a Klingon script I'm working up

Reminds me of the Ithkuil script! (The name of which I’ve sadly forgotten.) How does this one work?

bradrn

I think you’re both right! Some parts of language are very conscious, and other parts are so automatic as to be practically invisible to the untrained speaker. I saw a neat example of this when I read about classifiers in Lao (in Enfield’s grammar). Lao has two classification systems: numeral classi...

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So… yeah, maybe you’re right, and I’m overthinking these questionable edge cases. (It is something I tend to do when thinking about syntax.) Oh, you're not alone. Any sentence, or word, can start to sound dubious if you stare at it too long. Actually, what I have is the opposite problem. Every sent...

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