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- Sat May 18, 2024 2:20 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
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Re: Conlang Random Thread
There’s formal markedness, and then there’s functional markedness. I wonder how they determine "least marked" in languages without null marking, like, say, Akkadian, where nom is -u, -acc is -a and gen is -i. It comes down to, essentially: which case is chosen when none in particular appl...
- Sat May 18, 2024 5:32 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang fluency thread
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Re: Conlang fluency thread
[…] at giare wi scien, gis Ȝ i sannen ceike wel asammen the anner lettrer sam wi ha them? […] does yogh really look good alongside the other letters as we have them? Type rnos towaŋkbuy! Sey: [‘type’ ʒnos to.waŋ.kbuj | sej] type r-nos to-wa·m·kbuy! sey type ACC-that.ANA DEF.SG-AUX·AUX·different! li...
- Sat May 18, 2024 4:53 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3019
- Views: 2851895
Re: Conlang Random Thread
Firstly, ‘split-ergative’ is a dreadfully imprecise term covering many different alignment systems. Secondly, there’s also the direct–inverse subsystem to consider. imprecise to people who spend all day splitting hairs. For me and possibly lay people, the term is enough to convey "syntactic or...
- Fri May 17, 2024 7:14 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Venting thread
- Replies: 1931
- Views: 15028769
Re: Venting thread
In fairness to you, ‘this listing is an elaborate scam’ is not necessarily a possibility you’re considering. If anything, I commend you on picking it up before anything bad happened!doctor shark wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 7:09 pm I feel a bit like a fool for not noticing these things earlier...
- Fri May 17, 2024 7:12 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3019
- Views: 2851895
Re: Conlang Random Thread
It's split-ergative. The only difference is that the accusative and absolutive share a morpheme instead of the nominative and absolutive sharing a morpheme. Firstly, ‘split-ergative’ is a dreadfully imprecise term covering many different alignment systems. Secondly, there’s also the direct–inverse ...
- Fri May 17, 2024 5:30 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3019
- Views: 2851895
Re: Conlang Random Thread
I'm not sure what the name of the alignment is, but there's got to be a name somewhere. (I personally like this alignment and have a tendency to use it, alongside direct-inverse marking, in my languages.) I’m tempted to call it the ‘Conlanger Inverse System’… If I call the absolutive an accusative ...
- Fri May 17, 2024 4:52 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang fluency thread
- Replies: 2461
- Views: 1483073
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Emmin ceiks the ʒouk letter sam ei latin letter. At least the ezh letter looks like a Latin letter. Yogh nib butowa-Latin-ndo aŋ! [joɡ.nib bu.to.wa.laˈtin.ndo.aŋ] yogh nib bu-to-wa·Latin-ndo aŋ yogh FOC.CONTR but-DEF.SG-AUX·Latin-more INT But yogh is even more Latin! Meir latin? Tha ska kanner fork...
- Fri May 17, 2024 4:29 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3019
- Views: 2851895
Re: Conlang Random Thread
(Re Ahzoh and jal’s later posts, I’m still trying to marshal my thoughts on them. I do still mean to reply to them.) So, this is what my table would have to look like in order to be consistent with your analysis while avoiding unnecessary empty cells: […] It's not very pleasant compared to the my o...
- Fri May 17, 2024 12:40 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Reverse Rominazation Challenge Thread, v2.0
- Replies: 132
- Views: 66535
Re: Reverse Rominazation Challenge Thread, v2.0
/b x t x d x c x k x q x / b' t' d' c' k' q' By the way, what are those x 's supposed to signify? I tried looking up the extIPA for those but the page I got on the Wiki rendered much of such things as blocks. I interpret them as simply heterorganic affricates — e.g. [tx] is attested in Navajo.
- Fri May 17, 2024 12:38 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: bradrn’s scratchpad
- Replies: 120
- Views: 80274
Re: bradrn’s scratchpad
Why the term Adnominal rather than Determiner for that particular series? Just curious ‘Determiner‘ in IE grammar generally refers to a syntactic slot which can be filled by a whole range of different items: articles, demonstratives, possessives, quantifiers, etc. Eŋes doesn’t have any single slot ...
- Fri May 17, 2024 5:42 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang fluency thread
- Replies: 2461
- Views: 1483073
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Yogh nib butowa-Latin-ndo aŋ!
[joɡ.nib bu.to.wa.laˈtin.ndo.aŋ]
yogh nib bu-to-wa·Latin-ndo aŋ
yogh FOC.CONTR but-DEF.SG-AUX·Latin-more INT
But yogh is even more Latin!
- Fri May 17, 2024 4:16 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: bradrn’s scratchpad
- Replies: 120
- Views: 80274
Re: bradrn’s scratchpad
Why the term Adnominal rather than Determiner for that particular series? Just curious ‘Determiner‘ in IE grammar generally refers to a syntactic slot which can be filled by a whole range of different items: articles, demonstratives, possessives, quantifiers, etc. Eŋes doesn’t have any single slot ...
- Thu May 16, 2024 7:03 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang fluency thread
- Replies: 2461
- Views: 1483073
Re: Conlang fluency thread
I wasn't familiar yet with the "seven kill stele", surprised or not. Also it seems it's fake. Qhamaniziye sigaa mut'a. bore-APSS-AGT.3.S.INAN-PRES stele-ERG real-ERG The real stele is boring. Stili butomawoʔŋ aŋ! (…nos na mec 1934 iŋasanlismemŋun oŋo mbuliselbuʔ?) [sti.li.bu.to.maˈwoʔŋ.aŋ...
- Thu May 16, 2024 5:56 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Reverse Rominazation Challenge Thread, v2.0
- Replies: 132
- Views: 66535
Re: Reverse Rominazation Challenge Thread, v2.0
⟨a e i o u⟩ /a e i o u/ ⟨aa ee ii oo uu⟩ /aː eː iː oː uː/ ⟨m n⟩ /m n/ ⟨t c k q⟩ /t t͡ʃ k q/ ⟨th ch kh qh⟩ /tʰ t͡ʃʰ kʰ qʰ/ ⟨t' c' k' q'⟩ /tʼ t͡ʃʼ kʼ qʼ/ ⟨b d j g⟩ /b d d͡ʒ ɡ/ ⟨b' d'⟩ /ɓ ɗ/ ⟨f s z x h⟩ /f s z x h/ ⟨w l y r⟩ /w l j r/ (I did see this language a couple of days ago, so I’ve tried to avoi...
- Wed May 15, 2024 5:03 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3019
- Views: 2851895
- Wed May 15, 2024 4:46 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3019
- Views: 2851895
Re: Conlang Random Thread
I am personally of the view that resorting to logic and theory to justify how languages act, and questioning if something attested in a given language is possible when it does not correspond to said logic and theory, is probably not the greatest of ideas. What's that in referrence to? If you define...
- Wed May 15, 2024 12:48 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1406
- Views: 449580
Re: English questions
I think it's a generalisation of 'I could have done that', which doesn't really make a lot of sense when one analyses it. This particular construction does make sense to me. You just need to notice that English modals don’t really have past tense forms — so if you want to place a modal in the past,...
- Wed May 15, 2024 9:18 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang fluency thread
- Replies: 2461
- Views: 1483073
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Yu kip way Ingles sentms. You omitted the English sentence. At leuthes oʒsa atsʒen harthle bedruiccet, cens thasʒen aull ret? It also sounds rather depressing, are you feeling okay? :? Stili anwase we ni towraŋwgiŋ. (Nortaneous sof Hallow XIII ner rŋay ntaŋwarwoŋsesi.) [stiˈli.an.wa.se.we.ni tow.ra...
- Wed May 15, 2024 7:28 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1406
- Views: 449580
Re: English questions
"If I had had that cake, it wouldn't've gone mouldy" definitely works for me. This is just standard English, surely? So does "If I had've known, I wouldn't've eaten the cake" (only informally though). Combining those to make 4 only makes it a bit weirder. Maybe the key then is t...
- Wed May 15, 2024 6:36 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1406
- Views: 449580
Re: English questions
I think it's a generalisation of 'I could have done that', which doesn't really make a lot of sense when one analyses it. This particular construction does make sense to me. You just need to notice that English modals don’t really have past tense forms — so if you want to place a modal in the past,...