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by bradrn
Tue May 28, 2024 4:24 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Resources Thread
Replies: 99
Views: 70548

Re: Resources Thread

Really? I thought they were still clitics. So what are some papers that discuss this aspect of French morphology? Clitics are morphemes… I’m wondering if you perhaps mean ‘affixes’? In response to which I submit that ‘clitic’ and ‘affix’ aren’t actually meaningful concepts at all, in a cross-lingui...
by bradrn
Tue May 28, 2024 4:09 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Resources Thread
Replies: 99
Views: 70548

Re: Resources Thread

Alright, disregard that question. Is anyone aware of some paper that discusses the potential grammaticalisation of French verbal clitics to morphemes? Um, French verbal clitics are already morphemes, and always have been…! Really? I thought they were still clitics. So what are some papers that disc...
by bradrn
Tue May 28, 2024 4:01 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Resources Thread
Replies: 99
Views: 70548

Re: Resources Thread

Zju wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 3:58 pm Alright, disregard that question.

Is anyone aware of some paper that discusses the potential grammaticalisation of French verbal clitics to morphemes?
Um, French verbal clitics are already morphemes, and always have been…!
by bradrn
Tue May 28, 2024 3:28 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Resources Thread
Replies: 99
Views: 70548

Re: Resources Thread

Discussion of polysynthetic tendencies in French - is anyone aware of some other paper on the same subject, which does something more than a passing mention that je and the like are clitics? Personally, I’ve come to feel that any discussion about ‘polysynthesis’ should be dismissed if it doesn’t be...
by bradrn
Tue May 28, 2024 10:28 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 917
Views: 1085185

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

Since I know people here will at least get a kick out of it: here is one recent article draft / essay by Alexis Manaster Ramer on an "Efficient Theory", which seems to be suggesting vocalic values of laryngeals as primary and consonantal ones as secondary — though the details are not part...
by bradrn
Tue May 28, 2024 6:36 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 917
Views: 1085185

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

Does anyone have any unconventional ideas on the pronunciation of laryngeals? Since I know people here will at least get a kick out of it: here is one recent article draft / essay by Alexis Manaster Ramer on an "Efficient Theory", which seems to be suggesting vocalic values of laryngeals ...
by bradrn
Tue May 28, 2024 4:54 am
Forum: End Matter
Topic: (Inner) Skou
Replies: 28
Views: 10403

Re: (Inner) Skou

After a long hiatus I tried to resume transcribing these changes, and almost immediately ran into issues with *ɡʷ in Sangke: *gʷ → tʃ (in bound prefixes, free pronouns and nouns) *gʷ → f (in free pronouns) The issue for the first change here is that he actually gives quite a different chronology: Th...
by bradrn
Tue May 28, 2024 3:11 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: How did Mapos Buang develop a uvular series?
Replies: 2
Views: 156

Re: How did Mapos Buang develop a uvular series?

[…] but because Oceanic languages tend not to have a uvular series I'm curious to know how Mapos Buang got one. Proto-Oceanic had uvular *q, which seems like a sufficiently likely source to me. Most of the Oceanic languages ended up getting rid of it, but clearly Mapos Buang didn’t. (I think quite ...
by bradrn
Mon May 27, 2024 2:14 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4731
Views: 2094807

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

What are you unsure about here? Which constructions exist, which cases are used with them, and the extent to which they matter. You mean things like the AcI or the absolute ablative? Don’t know what the ‘AcI’ is, but not really like the absolute ablative: rather, which case is used for the argument...
by bradrn
Mon May 27, 2024 12:23 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4731
Views: 2094807

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

hwhatting wrote: Mon May 27, 2024 11:25 am
bradrn wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 6:12 am Non-finite forms: unsure
What are you unsure about here?
Which constructions exist, which cases are used with them, and the extent to which they matter.
by bradrn
Mon May 27, 2024 5:34 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Names, nouns and their (phonological) restrictions
Replies: 21
Views: 411

Re: Names, nouns and their (phonological) restrictions

I preferred the use of translation, but with globalization it would require organizations to set prescriptive standards, I can't say I've ever seen anyone call the IPA an organization. :) The International Phonetic Association isn’t an organisation? (They being the ones who maintain the Internation...
by bradrn
Sun May 26, 2024 5:43 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Names, nouns and their (phonological) restrictions
Replies: 21
Views: 411

Re: Names, nouns and their (phonological) restrictions

Names are just nouns, except when they're not. That is, they are not a syntactic or morphological category, and in general they won't have any distinctive phonology. They start off transparent and understandable. Aside from what you’ve mentioned here, they also tend to have some syntactic restricti...
by bradrn
Sun May 26, 2024 5:03 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: The New ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 319
Views: 340573

Re: The New ZBB Quote Thread

zompist wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 4:53 pm The more remote a place was, the less translation was done— e.g. Ivan the Terrible should have been translated John the Awesome.
by bradrn
Sun May 26, 2024 2:53 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Happy things thread!
Replies: 1220
Views: 718094

Re: Happy things thread!

doctor shark wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 2:40 pm This finally went online! (Took long enough...)
Very fascinating and important work!
by bradrn
Sun May 26, 2024 4:30 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3045
Views: 2860669

Re: Conlang Random Thread

They don't have to be a formal word class, just express the concepts that conjunctions typically do. Cuz I'm quite aware some use adpostions or special verb forms to serve conjunctive functions . Like "with" also being used to mean "and" or the Ethiopian Semitic "gerundives...
by bradrn
Sun May 26, 2024 4:25 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3045
Views: 2860669

Re: Conlang Random Thread

All languages have some way of expressing basical logical operations like "and" and "or". But the concepts are not usually expressed in Middle Egyptian. Could this not be an accident of attestation? I find it rather difficult to believe that people wouldn't have needed to talk a...
by bradrn
Sun May 26, 2024 4:11 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread
Replies: 42
Views: 6272

Re: Darren's Mitsiefa Thread

While it's a bizarre analysis, it's the biggest discrepancy between consonant phones and phonemes I've ever seen – on average more than 6 distinct realisations of each phoneme. And yes, obviously it's complete bunk. Moloko (Chadic) has a single vowel phoneme with 5 realisations, plus another 5 real...
by bradrn
Sat May 25, 2024 7:48 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: British Politics Guide
Replies: 1948
Views: 1021471

Re: British Politics Guide

Is Sunak insane? It does seem quite likely, doesn’t it? At some point you do have to admit it as a serious possibility. (Not that I’m complaining, mind you. I like Starmer quite a lot, from what I’ve seen of him.) The explanation I have read is that he has given up on winning the general election a...
by bradrn
Sat May 25, 2024 7:21 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: British Politics Guide
Replies: 1948
Views: 1021471

Re: British Politics Guide

This man seems quite mad… I just saw the following headline: Sunak vows to bring back national service for school leavers Is he trying to sabotage the miniscule chance he has of re-election? I struggle to explain his actions in any other coherent way… Is Sunak insane? It does seem quite likely, doe...
by bradrn
Sat May 25, 2024 6:49 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: British Politics Guide
Replies: 1948
Views: 1021471

Re: British Politics Guide

This man seems quite mad… I just saw the following headline:

Sunak vows to bring back national service for school leavers

Is he trying to sabotage the miniscule chance he has of re-election? I struggle to explain his actions in any other coherent way…