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by keenir
Fri May 10, 2024 12:24 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 902
Views: 1083007

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

The thing is that raise the question of where the palatovelar versus velar versus labiovelar contrast came from in the first place, since the instability of such an arrangement implies that it should not have existed for long, and hence positing it merely pushes the actual original state back in ti...
by keenir
Thu May 09, 2024 4:42 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Random Thread
Replies: 3722
Views: 450183

Re: Random Thread

therapist: objectively evil sound changes do not exist they can't hurt you cot-caught merger and yeismo: allow us to introduce ourselves I think the most evil sound change is turning sibilants into laterals myself. You deny the darkness in your soul, you deny your power. just let the pressure build...
by keenir
Thu May 09, 2024 3:06 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4680
Views: 2058687

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

foxcatdog wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 3:03 pm english clearly stole do support from conlangs everyone claim are bad for copying it
You just now realized the Real True Ineffable Reason why conlangers discourage copying from English.
:D
by keenir
Thu May 09, 2024 3:06 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4680
Views: 2058687

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Yet that's what we see here: Old English lacks contemporary do -support. It does include some precedents, chiefly emphatic use of do in imperatives. So the substratum argument would have to be that some form of it was present in the speech of Anglo-Saxons beginning shortly after the invasions and y...
by keenir
Wed May 08, 2024 6:14 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4680
Views: 2058687

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

When did do support first appear in English? according to Dr McWhorter, back in the days of Welsh, Cornish, and other Celtic languages. (it was brought into English from there, so its been here the whole time) McWhorter is, IMNSFHO, full of shit here. To be fair, thats not an exact quote I was usin...
by keenir
Wed May 08, 2024 9:38 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4680
Views: 2058687

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Otto Kretschmer wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 8:59 am When did do support first appear in English?
according to Dr McWhorter, back in the days of Welsh, Cornish, and other Celtic languages.
(it was brought into English from there, so its been here the whole time)
by keenir
Tue May 07, 2024 3:09 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Challenge: American English as a separate language
Replies: 30
Views: 529

Re: Challenge: American English as a separate language

Plenty of divergent dialects made it to North America in large numbers. Where I grew up, the largest ethnic group was "Scotch Irish," meaning there would have been a time when everyone in the Appalachians sounded like this child . The issue is that those divergent dialects never made up t...
by keenir
Tue May 07, 2024 12:38 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2957
Views: 2847565

Re: Conlang Random Thread

to my eyes, that looks like the same thing...the only difference is the tense of the had/left within the counterfactual. They are apparently completely different things, and the counterfactual is expressed with fake past tense. fake past tense? I'm suspecting that the two example statements were sp...
by keenir
Tue May 07, 2024 12:31 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Random Thread
Replies: 3722
Views: 450183

Re: Random Thread

What I I'm trying to understand is why the Quran having a code would be significant. The same thing is done with the Bible...literally "The Bible Code" as per many dozens of books and tv specials. I'm not sure what the founding thought was that kicked off the 20th Century searches and pub...
by keenir
Tue May 07, 2024 12:27 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Venting thread
Replies: 1920
Views: 15027550

Re: Venting thread

sounds like sleep is a good idea. enjoy. :) So last week I tripped while running and scraped my shoulder on pavement. Now an enormous scar is forming on my shoulder, the size of a playing card and stiff enough to make moving my left arm uncomfortable. my commisserations and sympathies; that sounds m...
by keenir
Mon May 06, 2024 10:22 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 2957
Views: 2847565

Re: Conlang Random Thread

I was certain a counterfactual is simply "an alternate past state that did not occur in reality". That "if I had money, we would be drinking beer", asserts that having money is contrary to reality. But the drinking of beer is also contrary to reality. Though for this same reason...
by keenir
Mon May 06, 2024 9:45 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: AI in conlanging - present and future
Replies: 18
Views: 300

Re: AI in conlanging - present and future

I'm surprised there is enough stuff about conlanging out there that ChatGPT actually knows about it :) I've said it before in the AI thread... but beyond the 'cool toy' aspect (which I mean, it is) I don't think generative AI is terribly useful. I'm very skeptical about claims that it's going to wr...
by keenir
Sat May 04, 2024 4:17 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: War in the Middle East, again
Replies: 417
Views: 73885

Re: War in the Middle East, again

if memory serves, Bradrn has repeatedly pointed out not being a Zionist...thats kinda the point being made in rebuttal to your points. I don’t understand what you mean here. I most certainly consider myself a Zionist. Sorry...when i was typing, I couldn't recall if you were not a Zionist, or a Zion...
by keenir
Sat May 04, 2024 1:27 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: War in the Middle East, again
Replies: 417
Views: 73885

Re: War in the Middle East, again

the palestinian people are *actually being mass murdered* in an ongoing genocide. the genocide or forced removal of palestinians are the only two possible (obviously not mutually exclusive) end results of the ideology of zionism holding and keeping state power. i don't agree with someone calling fo...
by keenir
Wed May 01, 2024 9:35 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4680
Views: 2058687

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I again got a barista (I'm no sure if this was the same barista even though it was at the same coffee shop -- in both cases it was over an intercom) who did not understand my order for an Arnold Palmer. This time, after I repeated my order, my order was made... except I was made a cold brew coffee,...
by keenir
Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:33 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: War in the Middle East, again
Replies: 417
Views: 73885

Re: War in the Middle East, again

As for "is literally the justification used by every committer of mass atrocities ever", I'm not justifying anything, as I think I've made quite clear. Israel is a bunch of assheads as far as I'm concerned, and I would support their opponents, if I could do so with a clean conscience. Whi...
by keenir
Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:30 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 902
Views: 1083007

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

hmmm...offhand, I'd guess that a word ( proto-Hal l, basically) was picked up from the substrate and, modified into Hall- by the Germanic speakers, who spread it throughout what was the Germanic-speaking world. Little nitpick, it isn't even Germanic, it's purely the German (= High & Low German,...
by keenir
Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:42 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 902
Views: 1083007

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

What this shows is how much the etymological analysis of names is even more guesswork than etymology in general because we don't know the original meanings of the names. Agreed. But anyway, the main point is that the Hall- names are limited to, but wide-spread in, the German-speaking area, which ma...
by keenir
Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:39 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: A monochromatic consociety
Replies: 8
Views: 218

Re: A monochromatic consociety

I wonder - how would the world look like if humans could only see in black and white? Would the development of civilization be hindered in any way? I can't see how it would be, sorry. I see what you did there :-) that was unintentional on my part; though I like the humor you pointed out; thank you....
by keenir
Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:57 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: A monochromatic consociety
Replies: 8
Views: 218

Re: A monochromatic consociety

I wonder - how would the world look like if humans could only see in black and white? Would the development of civilization be hindered in any way? I can't see how it would be, sorry. A good reference would be the book Island of the Colorblind though only the first part of the book is about the isl...