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I think it was on the ZBB that I remember someone mentioning an attestation of u i > uk ic / _#.

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:55 pmNext: trash can

Proto Tim Ar-O *glʁptjw 'latrine pit'
> Classical Ngade n Tim Ar /ɬàhtɯ̀/ łahtï 'trash can, waste receptacle'
> Proto-O *kwrptsjw > O /kʷɨpsə/ k̇ypsə 'sewage line'

Next: soldier, infantryman

Looks nice! I'll have to tinker around with it some.

Mam dużego psa. Ona jest moją przyjaciółką.
I have a big dog. She's my friend.

/p b t ɖ q ʔ/ p b t d c/qu* h /tɬ tʃ dʒ/ tl** tz dz /v ʂ x ɣ qχ/ v x j g q /l r/ l r /m n ŋ/ m n ñ /w j/ u~w*** i~y*** /ɪ ɛ a u o/ i e a u o /qaʂtaxvɪʂ waʔ ram loʂ ʂaɖ xuɣ ʂɪdʒlax qɛtboɣ loɖ/ Caxtajvix uah ram lox xad jug xidzlaj quetbog lod. /tlhIngan Hol 'oHbe'bogh latlh Hol'e' DajatlhlaH'a'/ Tliñ...

High vowels can generate a consonant with the same POA word-finally. High vowels can also change into affricates at the same POA directly before another high vowel (as is believed to have happened in various situations in Lakes Plain). High-tone vowels can break, and then you can epenthesize a conso...

can a language develop positional voicing even for its sonorants, such as liquids and nasals? Yes, this appears to have happened to a very small degree during the development of sonorant allophony in Wichita : The allophones [ɾ] and [n] are in complementary distribution : It is [n] before alveolars...

Romanization Because working with strictly IPA gets boring sometimes. /m n nˤ ɲ ɲˤ ŋ/ m n ṇ nʸ ṇʸ ñ /p b mb t d nd tˤ dˤ ndˤ tʲ dʲ ɲdʲ tʲˤ dʲˤ ɲdʲˤ k g ŋg q ʔ/ p b mb t d nd ṭ ḍ ṇḍ tʸ dʸ nʸdʸ ṭʸ ḍʸ ṇʸḍʸ k g ñg q ʔ /ts dz ndz tsˤ dzˤ ndzˤ tʃ dʒ ɲdʒ tʃˤ dʒˤ ɲdʒˤ/ c z nz c̣ ẓ ṇẓ č ž nž č̣ ẓ̌ ṇẓ̌ /ɸ s ...

A sound rule Sequences /ij uw/ surface as i or u word-finally or before a consonant. This excludes geminate /jː wː/. VII dˤuɲdʲgiw 'turn white, blanch, become pale, whiten' < √ɲdʲ-g-w 'white' VII. RESULTATIVE dˤuɲdʲigwu 'stone ground for brickmaking' > √ɲdʲ-g-w 'white' I. A.PL mndzˤuli 'bricklayer'...

Seed 2116543716:

/ŋ͡m m n/
/k͡p g͡b k͡p͡x͡fˡ p b t d t͡s d͡z k g/
/s x/
/l/

/i ɨ a o/

Yes, that is /k͡p͡x͡fˡ/, a labiodental-velar lateral affricate.

This looks really interesting. I love the idea of a triconsonental sprachbund. Thank you! Yeah, I was kind of thinking, "what if triconsonantal morphology were an areal feature?". I've got a few tricons or putative families thereof—Raholg, Wǫkratąk, something else from a while ago that I ...

Nominalizers Verbal Noun I C₁VC₂aC₃C₃u II C₁VC₁C₂aC₃C₃u III C₁VC₂C₃u IV C₁C₂VC₃C₃u V VC₁C₁aC₂C₃u VI NVC₁C₂aC₃C₃u VII DVC₁C₂aC₃C₃u Agent I C₁VC₃C₂VC₃ II C₁əC₁VC₂VC₃ III C₁C₃VC₂C₂VC₃ IV C₁VC₂C₂iC₃ V VC₁C₁VC₃C₂ VI NəC₁C₁VC₂VC₃ VII DC₁VC₂C₂VC₃ ( D is underlyingly /dˤ/, but this changes depending on its...

i don't have much experience with triconsonantal root-based (con)langs but this looks like it is/will be pretty thorough. i'm curious as to what your syntax will look like or be capable of. Thank you! also, i think it's a bit interesting you have a marked affirmative and a marked negative. from a q...

So in my setting there's this big Sprachbund where you end up with several families of triconsonantal languages. Here's the latest, because I am a glutton for punishment. Phonology Phonemic inventory /m n nˤ ɲ ɲˤ ŋ/ /p b mb t d nd tˤ dˤ ndˤ tʲ dʲ ɲdʲ tʲˤ dʲˤ ɲdʲˤ k g ŋg q ʔ/ /ts dz ndz tsˤ dzˤ ndzˤ ...

Ars Lande wrote: ↑Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:20 pmLots of people, of all ages, have

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[i] -> [iç]

word finally. I caught myself doing too, to my consternation (it is a little annoying).

When I was at uni, my Field Methods class studied Bambara Mandinka. I think I remember our informant doing this at least once.

bbbosborne wrote: ↑Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:45 pm can breathy voiced plosives turn into implosives, e.g. /bʱ/ --> /ɓ/?

I'm not aware of any sound change where this has happened. That being said, the combination of voicing and the glottal mechanism would make me think that you could realistically get away with it.

Seed 1901630755 gives us this lovely rule, slightly edited because as written it interferes with BBCode: Between a vowel and a vowel or an approximant, [d] become [t]; b become [ɸ]; [g] are deleted. I am aware that something similar is thought to have happened along the way to Kiput, but it's still ...

bbbosborne wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:42 amalso, are there any instances of click phonemes merging/diverging?

Yes.

I found a book preview on Google Books that mentions some connections between /s/ and palatals in passing. Apparently some languages in South America even have [s] as an allophone of /j/, although the preview doesn't include the name of the reference for this. If you're of the persuasion that the P...