Zompist Bboard Again

Chuma wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:50 am

Dē Graut Bʉr wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:24 am Having both tone and length is entirely unremarkable.

Okay, sounds good. Could you give me an example of some major language that has both? My natlang Swedish sort of does, but only a little bit of tone...

Mohawk. Yucatec Maya. Tlingit. Hausa. Xhosa.

To me it's not just a syllabification thing but a stress thing; /t/ at the beginning of onsets of stressed syllables are aspirated, not glottalized or flapped. It's probably the same with me, which would explain the aspirated/flapped variation in autism , since in careful speech I have secondary st...

Some Canadians say læva, I've heard it on YouTube. And mærio, etc. Zaarin how do you pronounce "retire", "autism", "retard" (noun)? Sorry couldn't think of another example of post tonic unstr3ssed /t/. Edit: also "leotard". ÷÷÷÷÷÷ Also how about "potash&...

2) "t"s in the middle of words tend to be replaced by glottal stops: New Bri'ain, not New Britain, in a way that varies statewide. Debuccalization of /t/ before /n/ (or its syllabic equivalent) is characteristic of a lot of North American dialects. Post-vocalic [t] is practically non-exis...

The Mitanni, who worshipped some of the same gods, erupted into the Middle East around -1400. And evidence points to the Indo-Iranian superstrate of the Mitanni being Indo-Aryan rather than Iranian, fascinatingly. (The Hurrian mainstay of the Mitanni had already been in the region for quite some ti...

2) "t"s in the middle of words tend to be replaced by glottal stops: New Bri'ain, not New Britain, in a way that varies statewide. Debuccalization of /t/ before /n/ (or its syllabic equivalent) is characteristic of a lot of North American dialects. Post-vocalic [t] is practically non-exis...

I have the pin-pen merger, except in the environment t_. So pen and pin are both [pɪn], him and hem are both [hɪm], but ten [tɛn] is distinct from tin [tɪn], and Thames [tɛmz] from Tim's [tɪmz], etc. That's interesting, because I'm not PIN-PEN merged, but I do have [ɪ æ] > [ɛ] in certain specific w...

/s/ works; /j/ > /z/ is certainly attested. /k/ could also work, I think.

Might as well get this thread going again. My mom does not vocalize her /l/; in fact, in general I'd say her /l/ is probably brighter than mine (my [ɫ] is distinctly pharyngealized, I think). However, she does exhibit strong /l/-vocalization in one and only one specific phrase that I have heard: alp...

How about unconditional /g/ > /ʒ/ > /j/? Im not sure I believe in an unconditional shift like this. Semitic languages have shifts that are tied to their morphology, and are unlikely to occur in all environments in other languages. This would probably work best if the lanbga\\age has only a few type...

It's surprising to me that this isn't something more grammars would cover, given that, in English at least, it's a fairly common structure. Thanks for searching through all those grammars though, Ser. Could you give some examples? In Hhotakotí, there are postpositional phrases, such as sílijin cho ...

l > n also happens in some Algonquian languages, I believe.


How about unconditional /g/ > /ʒ/ > /j/?