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- Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:25 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4936376
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Does anyone else pronounce "experiment" with /iː/ for the second vowel? I haven't found this anywhere. I already know I don't speak proper English, and I've given up trying to. Just wondering. Yes. /iː/ would be weird as the third vowel, not the second . Typically, my vowels are [ɛ] [i(ː)...
- Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:59 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: New toy: phono
- Replies: 15
- Views: 6212
Re: New toy: phono
Testing.... Consonants Labials Dentals Retroflex Palatals Velars Uvular Glottal Plosives b d g ʔ Fricatives f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h Affricates ʣ Nasals m n ŋ Approximants l r ʀ Semivowels j Vowels Front Central Back High i y ʉ u Close o Open ɛ Low æ ɑ Very, very cool! 1 suggestion: what about an addition...
- Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:14 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The Malayalam Thread
- Replies: 63
- Views: 65796
Re: The Malayalam Thread
Kinship Terms I'm writing a post about this at a point when I haven't even said much about Malayalam just because I use these terms a lot even in English, to the point where using the kinds of terms that English-speakers normally use feels awkward. The truth is that every family has its own set of ...
- Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:23 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: The most difficult things about conlanging
- Replies: 31
- Views: 14516
Re: The most difficult things about conlanging
Good grief, Charlie Brown! By far, the most difficult thing for me was finalizing the phoneme inventory. I think I went through, at least, seven iterations before settling on my now-final version. Had to make an unexpected change to the phoneme inventory because there's a sister/daughter language t...
- Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:54 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: The most difficult things about conlanging
- Replies: 31
- Views: 14516
Re: The most difficult things about conlanging
(long time lurker, first time poster) Depends what you care about, I guess, and how deep down the rabbit hole you want to go.[...] In my experience, going deeper down the rabbit hole is just something that happens, if I want it to or not. And the deeper I go, the more difficult it tends to get. The...
- Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:46 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Famous 1970s Dinosaur Conlang Pakuni, Ancient Greek, Bees: Prometheus Text 2
- Replies: 14
- Views: 7176
Re: Famous 1970s Dinosaur Conlang Pakuni, Ancient Greek, Bees: Prometheus Text 2
Raholeun: xxx: yangfiretiger121: You're just being abusive and trolling. That is some serious slanderous language for a post about Greek mythology poetry. The whole thing makes sense. If I didn't explain it all in this post, I explained it in previous posts. I made a translation of an Ancient Greek...
- Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:13 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Hmmm...
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18745
Re: Hmmm...
My conlang contrasts the affrication of coronal plosives and fricatives with the labio-palatalization of all other consonants. Is something like this attested? What do you mean by this? Do you mean (a) all coronal "plosives and fricatives" are "affricated" while consonants at al...
- Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:33 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Famous 1970s Dinosaur Conlang Pakuni, Ancient Greek, Bees: Prometheus Text 2
- Replies: 14
- Views: 7176
Re: Famous 1970s Dinosaur Conlang Pakuni, Ancient Greek, Bees: Prometheus Text 2
Ya ain't the only one. Make room for me in that boat. Granted, I'm without the schizophrenic neighbor.
- Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:30 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: The most difficult things about conlanging
- Replies: 31
- Views: 14516
Re: The most difficult things about conlanging
By far, the most difficult thing for me was finalizing the phoneme inventory. I think I went through, at least, seven iterations before settling on my now-final version.Linus(?) wrote:Good grief, Charlie Brown!
- Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:25 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Hmmm...
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18745
Re: Hmmm...
My conlang contrasts the affrication of coronal plosives and fricatives with the labio-palatalization of all other consonants. Is something like this attested? In other news, while contrasting schwas (/ə̜ ə̹/) are unattested, I took the advice given in this thread about the likelihood of fricative v...
- Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:54 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Things Decided for Stupid Reasons
- Replies: 86
- Views: 61619
Re: Things Decided for Stupid Reasons
I like <ň> for /ŋ/. <ñ> is also fine. <ƞ> looks nice. <ņ> would be cool if the cedilla connected to either one of the "legs", but it doesn't (at least in any font that I know, and if it does in some stylistic font, it's basically irrelevant), so it's generally not what I'd use even if eve...
- Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:02 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Things Decided for Stupid Reasons
- Replies: 86
- Views: 61619
Re: Things Decided for Stupid Reasons
I like <ň> for /ŋ/. <ñ> is also fine. <ƞ> looks nice. <ņ> would be cool if the cedilla connected to either one of the "legs", but it doesn't (at least in any font that I know, and if it does in some stylistic font, it's basically irrelevant), so it's generally not what I'd use even if eve...
- Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:03 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Imminent language death of Icelandic
- Replies: 46
- Views: 29218
Re: Imminent language death of Icelandic
The kids I've seen pretty much sound like native-born Americans. The only way I've been able to be sure they're Icelandic is they'll throw in a perfectly pronounced Icelandic name like "Styrkár" or "Þorgerður" and it's clear they're bilingual. Not gonna try "Styrkár" c...
- Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:48 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Hmmm...
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18745
Re: Hmmm...
The lang now has a seven vowel base system (/ɑ(ː) ɐ̹(ː) ɛ(ː) ə(ː) ɪ(ː) œ(ː) ʊ(ː)/). Is /ɐ̹(ː)/ more likely to be paired/contrasted, broadly speaking, with /ɑ(ː)/ or /ə(ː)/ in the syllabary grid? Additionally, the lang's stress rule and pattern are below. Is there a better word with which to describe...
- Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:25 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Hmmm...
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18745
Re: Hmmm...
While I like the idea of having paired rounded and unrounded fricative vowels—not necessarily of the same height, I want the lang to sound decent without having triplicates of fricative and non-fricative vowels. Which two among /ʅ → ɪ/, /ʯ → ə̹/, and /ɿ → ɑ/ are most likely? In languages with /ɿ/ a...
- Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:30 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Hmmm...
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18745
Re: Hmmm...
Okay. Having read this , I'm very intrigued by fricative vowels, which seem like the logical route through which to get the changes I want (cf. [tʃ͡ə̹] → [t͡sə̹] and [kx͡a] → [xɑ̟]). However, how can I explain the bilabial/labiodental and velar affricates disappearing while the alveolar sibilants r...
- Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:32 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: What are good romanizations for the labiodental stops?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6234
Re: What are good romanizations for the labiodental stops?
<h> is a bad choice with which to Romanize any stop/plosive because the aspirants either are stable, as in English, or become fricatives, as in Ancient Greek. That said, the labiodental stops tend to be Romanized as <p> and <b> because they're relegated to allophonic status for reasons mentioned bef...
- Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:55 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Hmmm...
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18745
Re: Hmmm...
That's an unusual change. When affrication/spirantization is conditioned by specific vowels, it's usually either spread of the frication of the fricated vowel onto the consonant (as happened in some Sino-Tibetan and Bantu languages) or palatalization. In Tohono O'odham you have all back vowels trig...
- Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:00 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4936376
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Some people have /aw/ in 'aural', presumably a combination of spelling pronunciation and an attempt to disambiguate. Alternatively, there's the OW vowel, which is only known if one has exposure to Latin pronunciation. Or the majority of dialects of English except Scottish? :P Silly boy, I was refer...
- Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:40 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4936376