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by TurkeySloth
Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:25 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4936376

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Does anyone else pronounce "experiment" with /iː/ for the second vowel? I haven't found this anywhere. I already know I don't speak proper English, and I've given up trying to. Just wondering. Yes. /iː/ would be weird as the third vowel, not the second . Typically, my vowels are [ɛ] [i(ː)...
by TurkeySloth
Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:59 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: New toy: phono
Replies: 15
Views: 6212

Re: New toy: phono

Testing.... Consonants Labials Dentals Retroflex Palatals Velars Uvular Glottal Plosives b d g ʔ Fricatives f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h Affricates ʣ Nasals m n ŋ Approximants l r ʀ Semivowels j Vowels Front Central Back High i y ʉ u Close o Open ɛ Low æ ɑ Very, very cool! 1 suggestion: what about an addition...
by TurkeySloth
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Malayalam Thread
Replies: 63
Views: 65796

Re: The Malayalam Thread

Kinship Terms I'm writing a post about this at a point when I haven't even said much about Malayalam just because I use these terms a lot even in English, to the point where using the kinds of terms that English-speakers normally use feels awkward. The truth is that every family has its own set of ...
by TurkeySloth
Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:23 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: The most difficult things about conlanging
Replies: 31
Views: 14516

Re: The most difficult things about conlanging

Good grief, Charlie Brown! By far, the most difficult thing for me was finalizing the phoneme inventory. I think I went through, at least, seven iterations before settling on my now-final version. Had to make an unexpected change to the phoneme inventory because there's a sister/daughter language t...
by TurkeySloth
Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:54 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: The most difficult things about conlanging
Replies: 31
Views: 14516

Re: The most difficult things about conlanging

(long time lurker, first time poster) Depends what you care about, I guess, and how deep down the rabbit hole you want to go.[...] In my experience, going deeper down the rabbit hole is just something that happens, if I want it to or not. And the deeper I go, the more difficult it tends to get. The...
by TurkeySloth
Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:46 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Famous 1970s Dinosaur Conlang Pakuni, Ancient Greek, Bees: Prometheus Text 2
Replies: 14
Views: 7176

Re: Famous 1970s Dinosaur Conlang Pakuni, Ancient Greek, Bees: Prometheus Text 2

Raholeun: xxx: yangfiretiger121: You're just being abusive and trolling. That is some serious slanderous language for a post about Greek mythology poetry. The whole thing makes sense. If I didn't explain it all in this post, I explained it in previous posts. I made a translation of an Ancient Greek...
by TurkeySloth
Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Hmmm...
Replies: 33
Views: 18745

Re: Hmmm...

My conlang contrasts the affrication of coronal plosives and fricatives with the labio-palatalization of all other consonants. Is something like this attested? What do you mean by this? Do you mean (a) all coronal "plosives and fricatives" are "affricated" while consonants at al...
by TurkeySloth
Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Famous 1970s Dinosaur Conlang Pakuni, Ancient Greek, Bees: Prometheus Text 2
Replies: 14
Views: 7176

Re: Famous 1970s Dinosaur Conlang Pakuni, Ancient Greek, Bees: Prometheus Text 2

Raholeun wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:27 am I still don't get it. What does Ancient Greek have to do with dinosaurs and Ghana and Star Trek and conlanging? Sounds quite like the ramblings of my schizophrenic neighbour, to be frank.
Ya ain't the only one. Make room for me in that boat. Granted, I'm without the schizophrenic neighbor.
by TurkeySloth
Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:30 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: The most difficult things about conlanging
Replies: 31
Views: 14516

Re: The most difficult things about conlanging

Linus(?) wrote:Good grief, Charlie Brown!
By far, the most difficult thing for me was finalizing the phoneme inventory. I think I went through, at least, seven iterations before settling on my now-final version.
by TurkeySloth
Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Hmmm...
Replies: 33
Views: 18745

Re: Hmmm...

My conlang contrasts the affrication of coronal plosives and fricatives with the labio-palatalization of all other consonants. Is something like this attested? In other news, while contrasting schwas (/ə̜ ə̹/) are unattested, I took the advice given in this thread about the likelihood of fricative v...
by TurkeySloth
Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Things Decided for Stupid Reasons
Replies: 86
Views: 61619

Re: Things Decided for Stupid Reasons

I like <ň> for /ŋ/. <ñ> is also fine. <ƞ> looks nice. <ņ> would be cool if the cedilla connected to either one of the "legs", but it doesn't (at least in any font that I know, and if it does in some stylistic font, it's basically irrelevant), so it's generally not what I'd use even if eve...
by TurkeySloth
Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:02 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Things Decided for Stupid Reasons
Replies: 86
Views: 61619

Re: Things Decided for Stupid Reasons

I like <ň> for /ŋ/. <ñ> is also fine. <ƞ> looks nice. <ņ> would be cool if the cedilla connected to either one of the "legs", but it doesn't (at least in any font that I know, and if it does in some stylistic font, it's basically irrelevant), so it's generally not what I'd use even if eve...
by TurkeySloth
Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:03 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Imminent language death of Icelandic
Replies: 46
Views: 29218

Re: Imminent language death of Icelandic

The kids I've seen pretty much sound like native-born Americans. The only way I've been able to be sure they're Icelandic is they'll throw in a perfectly pronounced Icelandic name like "Styrkár" or "Þorgerður" and it's clear they're bilingual. Not gonna try "Styrkár" c...
by TurkeySloth
Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:48 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Hmmm...
Replies: 33
Views: 18745

Re: Hmmm...

The lang now has a seven vowel base system (/ɑ(ː) ɐ̹(ː) ɛ(ː) ə(ː) ɪ(ː) œ(ː) ʊ(ː)/). Is /ɐ̹(ː)/ more likely to be paired/contrasted, broadly speaking, with /ɑ(ː)/ or /ə(ː)/ in the syllabary grid? Additionally, the lang's stress rule and pattern are below. Is there a better word with which to describe...
by TurkeySloth
Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:25 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Hmmm...
Replies: 33
Views: 18745

Re: Hmmm...

While I like the idea of having paired rounded and unrounded fricative vowels—not necessarily of the same height, I want the lang to sound decent without having triplicates of fricative and non-fricative vowels. Which two among /ʅ → ɪ/, /ʯ → ə̹/, and /ɿ → ɑ/ are most likely? In languages with /ɿ/ a...
by TurkeySloth
Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:30 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Hmmm...
Replies: 33
Views: 18745

Re: Hmmm...

Okay. Having read this , I'm very intrigued by fricative vowels, which seem like the logical route through which to get the changes I want (cf. [tʃ͡ə̹] → [t͡sə̹] and [kx͡a] → [xɑ̟]). However, how can I explain the bilabial/labiodental and velar affricates disappearing while the alveolar sibilants r...
by TurkeySloth
Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:32 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: What are good romanizations for the labiodental stops?
Replies: 12
Views: 6234

Re: What are good romanizations for the labiodental stops?

<h> is a bad choice with which to Romanize any stop/plosive because the aspirants either are stable, as in English, or become fricatives, as in Ancient Greek. That said, the labiodental stops tend to be Romanized as <p> and <b> because they're relegated to allophonic status for reasons mentioned bef...
by TurkeySloth
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:55 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Hmmm...
Replies: 33
Views: 18745

Re: Hmmm...

That's an unusual change. When affrication/spirantization is conditioned by specific vowels, it's usually either spread of the frication of the fricated vowel onto the consonant (as happened in some Sino-Tibetan and Bantu languages) or palatalization. In Tohono O'odham you have all back vowels trig...
by TurkeySloth
Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:00 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4936376

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Some people have /aw/ in 'aural', presumably a combination of spelling pronunciation and an attempt to disambiguate. Alternatively, there's the OW vowel, which is only known if one has exposure to Latin pronunciation. Or the majority of dialects of English except Scottish? :P Silly boy, I was refer...
by TurkeySloth
Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4936376

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Salmoneus wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:27 am Some people have /aw/ in 'aural', presumably a combination of spelling pronunciation and an attempt to disambiguate.
Alternatively, there's the OW vowel, which is only known if one has exposure to Latin pronunciation.