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by Estav
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:50 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Replies: 129
Views: 334042

Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)

[*] column is frequently pronounced [ˈkɑljəm] in "illiterate speech" I've never heard of that, but I've seen kind of a reverse phenomenon of people using spellings like "vacumn" and "volumn". [*] almond is normally [ˈɑːmnd] but in popular speech is "not infrequent...
by Estav
Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:10 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 449600

Re: English questions

When is it acceptable to use a plural verb after an interrogative who ? Who are they? Who make these toys? (as in "Who are the people that make these toys?") Who bring their own food? Who have been to the island? As a rule, "who" as an interrogative pronoun triggers singular agr...
by Estav
Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:00 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Perception of "educated" vocabulary in Germanic languages vs Chinese, Arabic, or Romance languages
Replies: 18
Views: 3607

Re: Perception of "educated" vocabulary in Germanic languages vs Chinese, Arabic, or Romance languages

Next to English, the language I know best is French. I agree with hwhatting that there is a salient gap between inherited French vocabulary and learned Latinate words--I'm not sure that these layers of the vocabulary feel any closer than the equivalents in English, actually. E.g. the concept of a &q...
by Estav
Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:43 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 449600

Re: English questions

"I don't care what you or anyone else say" or "I don't care what you or anyone else says"? I don't think my grammar actually has a specific solution for these kinds of situations. As a conscious decision, I would go with agreement with the nearer element ("what you or anyon...
by Estav
Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:58 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 449600

Re: English questions

I came across the following striking comment in Haspelmath’s (in my opinion excellent) paper The indeterminacy of word segmentation and the nature of morphology and syntax ( https://doi.org/10.1515/flin.2011.002 , highlighting not in original): […] can we define the morphosyntactic word as a ‘maxim...
by Estav
Sat Jul 08, 2023 2:49 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 449600

Re: English questions

I know it's easier, but I really would prefer it personally if non-Americans did not assume or act as if standard American English were cot - caught merged. Dictionaries of "American English" which have said merger are a personal pet peeve of mine, as of course you can trivially derive sa...
by Estav
Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:19 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Question on Sound Change
Replies: 4
Views: 523

Re: Question on Sound Change

The oft-repeated Neogrammarian saw is that sound laws suffer no exceptions. But sound change often starts in a restricted pool of words, if I remember correctly, and only then diffuse out to the general lexicon. How do these get reconciled? (This is something I should know already but my college da...
by Estav
Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:00 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: (Lack of) aspiration in English
Replies: 14
Views: 3135

Re: (Lack of) aspiration in English

As I understand it, "aspiration" is not a phonetic binary: stops can be more or less aspirated. (Wikipedia refers to " degrees " of aspiration). So I'm skeptical that statements that English did not have stops that were as strongly aspirated as the aspirated series of Chinese or ...
by Estav
Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:49 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Replies: 129
Views: 334042

Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)

his description of vowel length here is phonemic. i will admit i may have put a length symbol or two into a [ u] transcription just to avoid having to do tedious workarounds so it wouldn't turb into a bbcode underline tag, and of course i'm summarizing his reporting in these posts rather than direc...
by Estav
Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:35 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4936350

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Nortaneous wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:47 amidempotent
/ˈaɪdəmˌpoʊtənt/ [ˈaɪɾəmˌpʰoʊʔn̩ˀt]
by Estav
Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:27 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Japanese descriptive grammars & learning material
Replies: 14
Views: 1599

Re: Japanese descriptive grammars & learning material

That's interesting to me considering that OVS isn't terribly unusual for German. ?? German is typically analyzed as SOV in "underlying" order, V2 in "surface" order; fronting is also possible, which in combination with the V2 rule leads to surface OVS order in clauses where the ...
by Estav
Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:11 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Irregular raising of [E] to [I]
Replies: 38
Views: 2517

Re: Irregular raising of [E] to [I]

My dialect does not merge "pin" and "pen", but some common words have raised their vowel from [E] to [ I ] anyways. Even in careful speech I pronounce them with [ I ]. How common is this very partial raising ? Words affected: get Yes, I have /ɪ/ in get, which I think is common, ...
by Estav
Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:03 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 449600

Re: English questions

I've noticed that in my English there's three different types of postalveolars, but I don't know how to describe their articulation or what symbols to use to represent them. The terminology used for sibilants is pretty complicated (what is "domed"? "palato-alveolar" and "al...
by Estav
Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:17 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 449600

Re: English questions

I'm currently working on a blog post where I plan to talk about a number of US politicians and briefly mention their demographic groups, so I'd like to know whether "African American" or "Black" would step on fewer toes. "Black" (capitalized) is fine as an adjective. H...
by Estav
Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:03 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4936350

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

I don't have affrication in either front room or restroom ; the latter isn't really used in my dialect anyway. One other curious example where I do have affrication is the brand name Land Rover ; indeed I recall being slightly surprised the first time I noticed it was actually written as two words....
by Estav
Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:44 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4936350

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Apparently "wardrobe" etymologically decomposes into ward + robe (although the compounding happened in French). That never occurred to me as I don't syllabify it accordingly: I always mentally pronounce it as "war-drobe".
by Estav
Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:33 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4692
Views: 2063987

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

In Japonic there have been a few instances of mid or midhigh vowels raising in various environments. In some cases they merged with their high counterparts and in others they caused the original high vowels in those same environments to be dropped or otherwise change. At least that's what I've read...
by Estav
Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:48 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 449600

Re: English questions

In NAE in the hospital has precisely the meaning you give for in hospital , which NAE-speakers typically regard as a Britticism, and for the meaning you give for in the hospital NAE-speakers would typically use at the hospital . For NAE, does the style rule apply that it is better to omit the artic...
by Estav
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:48 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 449600

Re: English questions

Some other data and another question: the Google Ngram viewer in fact shows no usage of "cake by half", while it does show results for "cake in half" and "divide the cake in half". I'm curious whether "by half" as a synonym of "in half" is also found...
by Estav
Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:38 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1406
Views: 449600

Re: English questions

I don't dispute that usages can become idiomatic by common usage: I already gave the example of "could care less" as a clearly established idiom where it's the compositional breakdown is irrelevant. I'm not saying that it's impossible for "divide by half" to mean "divide in ...