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I've never heard "Newfoundland" pronounced with secondary stress.

Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:18 pm MAR-uh-lund

This sounds wrong to me - I have /merɨlɨnd/ with schwi, pronounced approximately [meʴːln̩(d)]. (It probably should be /merɨlənd/.)

Ambulas (Maprik) [snip] D̠ky̠yʼb d̠r̠z capuk cuzd̠v̊̊r̠̃. Nate wd̠c de g̊̊ tuwe ẘkvs̠c̠r̠kv̠k. W̊kvs̠k̠r̠kdc d̠ der̠z wk, lsʼ m̠ tuwe cure ie g̊̊n̠ ia s̠rkg̊ bpduc̠ c̊i̠c̠ io. Wg wd̠c de tuwe cure i̠k. Cure i̠dc d̠ ia s̠rkg̊ bpdu d̠ wnh g̊̊ ckv̊̊k. Wnh c̊̊l̠ g̊̊ wh̃ g̊̊ d̠ ik. Ckv̊̊te wnh wh̃ g̊̊c̣...

Ambulas (Maprik) /p pʷ ᵐb t ⁿd k kʷ ⁿʥ ᵑɡ ᵑɡʷ/ <p p̊ b t d c c̊ j g g̊> /m mʷ n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m m̊ n y v v̊> /r/ <r> /β s/ <f s> /w l j/ <w l i> /-n -t -k/ <~ -z -k> /i ɨ u e ə o ɑ/ <h _ u e 0 o a> /k(ʷ)u ŋ(ʷ)u wu/ <c̊̊ v̊̊ ẘ> /ⁿdɨkɲɨɲᵐbə ⁿdɨrɨt kɑpuk kutⁿdɨŋʷurɨn || nɑte wəⁿdɨkə ⁿde ᵑɡu tuwe wukŋəsɨkɨr...

If you think blackmail is a good political system, and people are wrong to refuse to be blackmailed, then honestly you deserve the world we have now. This is why the Dems are as bad as they are. They only need to be 1 femtohitler less evil than the Republicans, which basically just means they need ...

- "False sciences" are things that don't bear fruit. You can tell parapsychology is fake because nobody's worked out a way to make money on it. (If parapsychology is real but unmonetizable, it comes from a force that resists monetization. Err, what? A lot of people seem to have made a lot...

"Science" is a silly term that obscures more than it clarifies. Why do we care about "science"? There are science perverts, who care about some practice under the umbrella of "science" the way foot perverts care about feet, but surely the societal "we" is not ...

To be honest, this sounds at least partly too good to be true to me. So, supposedly, in the 2010s, some schools in the USA had anti-bullying campaigns that not only worked in the sense that they actually reduced bullying, but even led to serious resentment among bullies or would-be-bullies, to the ...

lol so here's what happens when you move now

Initials: /pʰ p tʰ t ʈʰ ʈ tɕʰ tɕ kʰ k qʰ q ʔ/ <ph p th t ṭh ṭh ch c kh k ḳh ḳ -> /mb nd/ <mb nd> /f θ s ʂ/ <f s sh ṣ> /ʋ ð̞ l r j/ <v d l r y> /m n ŋ/ <m n ng> Medials: /a ɛ œ ɔ e o i ɨ ʉ u/ <a e ö o ei ou i ui ü u> /a̰ ɛ̰ œ̰ ɔ̰ ḛ o̰ ḭ ɨ̰ ʉ̰ ṵ/ <aq> /ae ao əi əu/ <ae ao ai au> /a̰ḛ a̰o̰ ə̰ḭ ə̰ṵ/ ......

Glottalic theory better explains Balto-Slavic (Winter's law) and Tocharian (*d > ts = *tʼ > *tsʼ > ts) as well as PIE phonotactics (*TeT *DheDh **DheT **TeDh), although Tocharian is probably a red herring here - it would've had to split before *Tʼ > Ɗ, but Anatolian has no sign of ejectives, and the...

Drambyuk (another language from one of the dead relays) Initials: /pʰ p tʰ t ʈʰ ʈ tɕʰ tɕ kʰ k qʰ q ʔ/ /mb nd/ /f θ s ʂ/ /ʋ ð̞ l r j/ /m n ŋ/ Medials: /a ɛ œ ɔ e o i ɨ ʉ u/ /a̰ ɛ̰ œ̰ ɔ̰ ḛ o̰ ḭ ɨ̰ ʉ̰ ṵ/ /ae ao əi əu/ /a̰ḛ a̰o̰ ə̰ḭ ə̰ṵ/ Finals: (can't co-occur with diphthongs) /p t k/ = [ˀp ˀt ˀk] in c...

Among the gShang-ni tQidash - those who acclaim Qila as Metkor - religious practice is generally divided into three tendencies, although all of the three recognize all others as part of the gShang . First, the bLire , often associated with the western reaches of Rau territory, who emphasize the cycl...

is it true that all languages have some voiced consonant phonemes? In other words, are there any languages without nasals, approximants or voiced obstruents? I think so, although my databases don't have perfect coverage. All languages with no nasals have either a /p b/ or a /p β/ contrast, except C...

EDIT: looks like the voiceless nasals are reconstructed as *hN sequences. There’s also a series of reconstructed onsets *bʔ *dʔ *gʔ, which look like they could be the prenasalised series — especially since the grammar mentions a connection between the prenasalised and ejective consonants. In that c...

bradrn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:31 am On closer inspection it looks like we don’t have access to the lexicon; could you allow public access to that, please?

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Woot! As luck would have it, the wayback machine preserves both of these: Proto-Ronquian reconstruction: https://web.archive.org/web/20180305084533/http://akana.conlang.org/wiki/Proto-Ronquian Proto-Ronquian reconstructed lexicon: https://web.archive.org/web/20211020032643/http://akana.conlang.org/...

The problem is that the same logic is used for both directions: making and interpreting the daughter languages. In some ways this is part of the appeal: this is a case where all the assumptions of the comparative method hold perfectly. So the question is — when all the assumptions hold, can everyth...

There’s at least some interesting stuff in OT, and I think the basic idea of studying cross-linguistic phonological constraints is a worthy one. IMO some of the constraints are interesting (conlangers especially underestimate faithfulness constraints - I see some very silly paradigms sometimes), bu...

Isn't Afroasiatic mostly defined by shared morphology, with hardly any accepted cognates? Sino-Tibetan has a fair number of cognates, unless a lot of things that look cognate are early loans, which is possible. It's definitely older than IE or Austronesian, but I don't think it's as old as Afroasiat...

For that kind of stuff, I highly recommend Yip’s book Tone . It has a lot of great information about tone sandhi, autosegmental analysis, and so on. (Its only problem is that it relies heavily on Optimality Theory, but that’s not a huge issue.) What actually *is* Optimality Theory? a template for p...