Zompist Bboard Again

If you really want to force it, adjectives are often treated as substantives themselves anyway, so they can be declined either to agree with their noun or otherwise. I'm not entirely sure how adjectival declension relates to polypersonal agreement on verbs. Anyway, this is the one case where an adj...

I know this as well. I was asking in the specific case of a transitive copula with adjectival predicate in a polypersonal language. If you really want to force it, adjectives are often treated as substantives themselves anyway, so they can be declined either to agree with their noun or otherwise. I...

What would happen with copulae with adjectival predicates in a language with polypersonal agreement? For instance, if I were to say something like 'My house is big', how would 'is' be inflected? 'Big' isn't even a noun, so it could be difficult to apply personal agreement. So don't. "Polyperso...

What would happen with copulae with adjectival predicates in a language with polypersonal agreement? For instance, if I were to say something like 'My house is big', how would 'is' be inflected? 'Big' isn't even a noun, so it could be difficult to apply personal agreement.

Yeah, debuccalization is extremely common but the reverse essentially never happens. (For glottal stops anyway; [h] can change to a glide or take on some of the features of neighboring vowels so become a fricative at a different POA, and a glide or non-glottal fricative can then undergo fortition t...

gestaltist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:59 am

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:55 am Would it be reasonable to have ʔ → k between vowels but ʔ → Ø everywhere else? e.g. maʔ → ma, amasʔe → amase, but paʔel → pakel.

I've never seen the glottal stop to fortite to /k/ so not sure.

Ah. I figured that since k → ʔ seems reasonably plausible, so would ʔ → k. I'll redo that one then.

Would it be reasonable to have ʔ → k between vowels but ʔ → Ø everywhere else? e.g. maʔ → ma, amasʔe → amase, but paʔel → pakel.

I'd guess your best bet is a phonology textbook. Maybe Hayes, Introductory Phonology ? I've mostly picked things up here and there over the years, so I don't have a strong opinion about textbooks. I did just read through Bale and Reiss, Phonology: A Formal Introduction , which I got a lot out of; i...

Somewhat unrelated question: why is it important to have a featural analysis here? What can this do that simply listing by POA/MOA cannot? (Then again, I know almost nothing about featural analysis, so I suspect there's some obvious answer here that I don't know...) It can be good to have a handle ...

Orthodox analysis: LABIAL CORONAL DORSAL -BACK +BACK -SON -STRID p t k +STRID s +SON +NASAL m n -NASAL -VOC l +VOC ʋ j -BACK +BACK +ROUND +HIGH i u -HIGH e o +LOW a Heterodox analysis: LABIAL CORONAL DORSAL -SON -CONT p t k +CONT s +SON -CONT m n +CONT -VOC l +VOC ʋ j CORONAL DORSAL LABIAL +HIGH i ...

Great site for making up a heraldic shield http://drawshield.net/create/index.html Impressive! I copied a complex blazon from Wikipedia over and it worked first time! (Of course, this tool would have limited use if your conworld's heralds differ in any significant way from the traditional European ...

Akangka wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:36 am Do you think it's reasonable to turn dative to accussative if the language originally have no accussative?

I wouldn't be able to answer this, but due to the Case Hierarchy it would seem unlikely for a language to have a dative without an accusative in the first place.

I'm not quite sure what the question is. I discuss this quite a bit in my syntax book; you can also look at various strategies in WALS: https://wals.info/chapter/122 https://wals.info/chapter/123 For a conlang, you probably want to worry about a few things: * what exactly do you do to mark relativi...

Modern Hebrew doesn't have a case system. You have the genitive preposition של /ʃel/, the use of the construct noun or addition of personal suffixed to the construct form. The first is used in most cases, the last is mainly used formally with many exceptions and the one in the middle is just rare, ...

nasals: /m n ŋ/<m n ng> plosives: /p ɓ t tʼ k kʼ ʔ/<p b t t' k k' '> affricates: /t͡s t͡sʼ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ/<tz tz' tx tx'> fricatives: /v s ʃ χ/<v s x j> resonants: /r l j/<r l y> Why are your stops implosive/ejective depending on their POA? I would find it more plausible to have either /p pʼ t tʼ kʼ ʔ/ o...

nasals: /m n ŋ/<m n ng> plosives: /p ɓ t tʼ k kʼ ʔ/<p b t t' k k' '> affricates: /t͡s t͡sʼ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ/<tz tz' tx tx'> fricatives: /v s ʃ χ/<v s x j> resonants: /r l j/<r l y> Why are your stops implosive/ejective depending on their POA? I would find it more plausible to have either /p pʼ t tʼ kʼ ʔ/ o...

I kinda want to have a language where most adjectives are actually nouns meaning "ADJ-ness", and the adjectival usage of these words are accomplished by using possessive structures or adpositional phrases. You find this construct pretty commonly in Semitic languages. Are you sure? I don't...

The man whom Maria kill kattu na Maria a a-ro-gapput-a Man REL Maria 3SG.DIR 3SG>3SG-PRF-kill-DIR.SG Later, since akko refers to katta, it becomes more proximate than Maria. katta na a Maria a-ro-gappud-e Man REL 3SG.DIR Maria 3SG>3SG-gappud-INV.SG I don't quite follow this - I can't see akko in an...

akam chinjir wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:39 pm

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:34 pm Interesting! So for affixes after the stem, would the order be verb-patient-agent?

Yeah, that'd be the normal pattern, at least.

Looks like I'll have to redo the verbal system, then (not that there's all that much to redo). Do you have any idea why this pattern exists?

Just to be clear, Swahili is nom/acc. E.g.: ni-li-wa-sikia 1s-past-3p-hear I heard them wa-li-ni-sikia 3p-past-1s-hear They heard me. ni-li-jibu 1s-past-answer I answered. That is, the prefix order makes it nom/acc. That's basically the system I was describing, so it definitely must be plausible. T...