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by Zju
Sat May 04, 2024 1:58 pm
Forum: Almea
Topic: "Experiencer"
Replies: 40
Views: 5112

Re: "Experiencer"

Another point is that conlangs' grammars are created consciously and with clear intent, whereas natlangs' grammars just sort of evolve on their own. People don't intentionally fiddle with morphemes and syntax, not with the intention of how their language "should" look like a couple of gene...
by Zju
Sat May 04, 2024 1:07 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 971
Views: 1087016

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

Indeed that's it! Regarding the Kartvelian form, it's discussed in another paper by the same author.
by Zju
Sat May 04, 2024 11:57 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Random Thread
Replies: 3751
Views: 457840

Re: Random Thread

Random musing: why do we sing a song, but not drink a dronk? Make up your mind, English!
by Zju
Sat May 04, 2024 11:56 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 971
Views: 1087016

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

No, pretty sure it was positted to occur only in front of *l - something with related with the phonetics (and/or phonotactics) of the sonorant cluster [ml] made it likely to change to bl. IIRC there were examples given of ml > (m)bl in other languages. If only I could find the paper, I'd cite them. ...
by Zju
Sat May 04, 2024 11:15 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 971
Views: 1087016

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

Dunno if this has been discussed already here, but PIE *Hebl- 'apple' may not be a loanword at all, and instead just be a metastethised form of *meHlom. Can't track down the paper from academia.edu I originally read that in, but the gist is that an intermediate form *Heml- underwent ml → bl. Also, a...
by Zju
Sat May 04, 2024 10:42 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4731
Views: 2108725

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Right, begining of the Old English period , not language. It's not like the ol' Angles went to bed one night speaking Proto-Germanic and woke up the next morning speaking Old English. "English", "Old English" and "Proto-Germanic" are all labels we arbitrarily tack on a ...
by Zju
Sat May 04, 2024 10:32 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Word evolution game
Replies: 2698
Views: 289292

Re: Word evolution game

[kx] > [cɕ] / V[+front]_ ['œcɕ] diórhe "(to a woman of higher rank than oneself) Mrs., Ms.; (with titles of office) madam; (of judges, justices) your honour" Palatalisation: ['ɟʝe.cɕæ̥] gaiciah "(to a woman of higher rank than oneself) Mrs., Ms.; (with titles of office) madam; (of jud...
by Zju
Wed May 01, 2024 12:10 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Venting thread
Replies: 1944
Views: 15032959

Re: Venting thread

doctor shark wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 11:33 am Here I was hoping unemployment would be a bit more vacation-like. Guess not!
Welcome to the club 🤗
by Zju
Wed May 01, 2024 10:46 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Resources Thread
Replies: 99
Views: 70976

Re: Resources Thread

I was linked to this impressively accessible grammar of West Greenlandic: https://oqa.dk/assets/aitwg2ED.pdf . It’s a little eccentric in its presentation, but then again West Greenlandic is a little eccentric too, so it works well. From just reading the first few pages this seems much more "f...
by Zju
Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:43 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: What are the phonotactics rules for Classical Latin?
Replies: 22
Views: 1478

Re: What are the phonotactics rules for Classical Latin?

Darren wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:29 am Actually English phonotactics are almost identical to those of Latin, you just have to add some more sC onsets, a few more RC codas and then a indiscriminate post-coda /s~z θ t~d/. Suck it, Catholics.
Ah, the strengths of English.
by Zju
Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:53 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: What are the phonotactics rules for Classical Latin?
Replies: 22
Views: 1478

Re: What are the phonotactics rules for Classical Latin?

Who gets to say what's acceptable and what is correct?
by Zju
Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:55 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 971
Views: 1087016

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

I feel like it has to count against loanword hypotheses for 7 that other loanword hypotheses for Indo-European numerals don't seem to hold much water. Blažek reviews them in passing for every numeral and only fails to reject any for 7 because there is no consensus on an internal derivation (the bes...
by Zju
Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:29 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 971
Views: 1087016

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

Alright, I don't know about ancient Egyptian, but apparently Akkadian has sebettum '7.MASC.FREE' and sebūtum '7th.FEM', and both are just a couple of vowel drops away from *septm . Infact, Proto-Slavic - and perhaps Proto-Germanic - rather point to *sebdm , and an alleged pre-form *sebtm nicely acco...
by Zju
Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:07 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Marginal distinctions
Replies: 15
Views: 734

Re: Marginal distinctions

What does a Milwaukee rhotic sound like? Is it close to any of these pronunciations? Searching for "Milwaukee uvular rhotic" turned up nothing of interest.
by Zju
Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:52 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 824563

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Just decompose them to a semivowel and a nasal? Nʲ Nʷ → jN wN / V_#
Or if you're feeling rather more rebellious: Nʲ Nʷ → Ni Nu / _#
by Zju
Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:27 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers
Replies: 737
Views: 139744

Re: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers

AI is now taking linguists' jobs, too! A computer science student has managed to decipher the first word on an ancient Roman scroll carbonized by a Mount Vesuvius eruption – with the help of artificial intelligence. For his achievement, the student, 21-year-old Luke Farritor, has won $40,000. But h...
by Zju
Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:19 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers
Replies: 737
Views: 139744

Re: AIs gunning for our precious freelancers

AI is now taking linguists' jobs, too! A computer science student has managed to decipher the first word on an ancient Roman scroll carbonized by a Mount Vesuvius eruption – with the help of artificial intelligence. For his achievement, the student, 21-year-old Luke Farritor, has won $40,000. But he...
by Zju
Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:30 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4731
Views: 2108725

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Right, that makes sense as to how /jn̩/ would be realised. I was curious to see a spectrogram of it.
by Zju
Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:06 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4731
Views: 2108725

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Hey zompist, sorry for keeping nagging you, but which one of these is close enough to your idiolect? Maybe e.g. the one by ausg? And is it just me, or does ynarakit pronounce onion as [ɐnjɛ]?
by Zju
Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:55 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 971
Views: 1087016

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

I can't give you references since my PC has died and I am on my phone now, but the Nostraticist literature is full of such comparisons between IE and Afroasiatic. I may be mistaken, but I think I recall hearing it from somewhere rather more reputable - akin to the comparisons of PIE and AA words fo...