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by cedh
Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:51 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 840752

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I initially thought about suggesting ʔl, but most eastern Algonquian languages (unlike, say, Ojibwe, or Iroquoian languages like Mohawk) do not have a phonemic glottal stop in the first place. Therefore (*pr) *tr *kr > tʃ is probably the most interesting option, especially if your language would hav...
by cedh
Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:30 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3068
Views: 2926636

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Most importantly, does the above system sound realistic? Noonan states that ‘all languages have some sort of reduced complement type in opposition to the indicative’. But what exactly is a ‘reduced complement type’? Noonan defines it fairly straightforwardly as ‘any complement type that has fewer s...
by cedh
Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:17 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3068
Views: 2926636

Re: Conlang Random Thread

At this point I think it would be useful to bring in some terminology. Dixon distinguishes between complement clause constructions and complementation strategies . The former you already know; the latter are other constructions which give a subordinate meaning but are not actually complement clause...
by cedh
Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:56 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Random Thread
Replies: 3830
Views: 508234

Re: Random Thread

https://www.instagram.com/ronnaldong/ does the kind of "transition" art where 2 images share one part in common, e.g. a girl holding a balloon in a cloud where that balloon is also the yolk of an egg. I found someone else whose name I dont remember who did much the same thing but all his ...
by cedh
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:15 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3068
Views: 2926636

Re: Conlang Random Thread

That tree looks good to me. Although frankly I can't decide if the preposition phrase is modifying the verb or should be filling its own object slot (which would result in the whole thing coming before the verb). To me (obviously as an outsider) it feels as if both variants might be equally possible...
by cedh
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:40 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3068
Views: 2926636

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Taking both your answer and Zompist's remarks into account, how about something like this: [S [NP_i [N [Māte what_MASC]] [Q [tē no]]] [V [zagā be.able_ACT.PRES]] [CP [C [bi COMP]] [S [NP_i^ [(Ø) *t*_i]] [NP [ʾamak 1SG_OBL]] [V [ṣessarnākku <REL>poke_ACT.PRES]] [PP [P [ʾina across]] [NP [lāmīnu finge...
by cedh
Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:07 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3068
Views: 2926636

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Anyone good at making syntax trees? Not sure if I treed my sentence correctly: [S [NP [N Māte] [NEG tē]] [VP [V zagā] [^CP [C bi] [VP [N ʾamak] [V ṣessarnākku] [PP [P ʾina] [N ]]]]]] Sentence in question is: Māte tē zagā bi ʾamak ṣessarnākku ʾina lāmīnu. "nothing could convince me otherwise.&q...
by cedh
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:20 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3068
Views: 2926636

Re: Conlang Random Thread

An adverbial phrase is defined functionally, as a phrase that functions like an adverb. This can be e.g. an adverb on its own ( "afterwards" ), a non-finite verb form ( "leaving" ), a non-finite verb phrase ( "having left the house" ), a prepositional phrase ( "aft...
by cedh
Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:40 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4751
Views: 2181771

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

You can certainly hear things like "Kommt/kommen dann morgen" sometimes, but my native speaker intuition would probably tend to say that the pronoun is not dropped syntactically here, but just phonetically (being in an unstressed utterance-initial syllable). And it's definitely much rarer ...
by cedh
Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:48 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 840752

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Huishu has created word-final dorsal stops out of nothing after a high vowel, almost certainly with a fricative intermediate: i u > ih uh > iç ux > ic uk / _# Another plausible environment for conditioned fortition would be following a nasal: mf ns ŋx > mpf nts ŋkx > mp nt ŋk (and possibly further >...
by cedh
Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:37 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4751
Views: 2181771

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Oh, and unrelated question, is it just as probable for vowels to lengthen before glottal stops, glottalised stops (ejective, implosive, pharyngealised, or anything else classically considered emphatic), or geminate stops, as before single stops? eg. In the set *ata > aːta *aʔta > aːta *at’a > aːta ...
by cedh
Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:07 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Blessed Cold: North America, Part 1
Replies: 20
Views: 14501

Re: Blessed Cold: North America, Part 1

This scenario looks very interesting, I'm looking forward to more! ...see, this is exactly the kind of information that I really did try hard to find out but couldn't actually locate. I found a ruddy paper of Proto-Muskogean, for crying out loud, but not one on Proto-Algonquian. So, well, yes, I sho...
by cedh
Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:47 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3068
Views: 2926636

Re: Conlang Random Thread

There are a couple of languages where /a/ has [ɰ] as a non-syllabic allophone, which in your phonology would likely be reinterpreted as /ɣ/; i.e. /aai/ > [aɰi] (/aɣi/) etc.

You could also use the glide allophone of the following vowel instead; i.e. /aai aay aau/ > [aji aɥy awu].
by cedh
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:11 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4751
Views: 2181771

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Interesting!
dhok wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:54 am b) I am not good at memorizing German separable verbs; they all run together.
A side note: the prefixes ge-, be- and ver- are not separable.
by cedh
Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:54 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Latin Orthography Help for ConPhonemes
Replies: 19
Views: 10317

Re: Latin Orthography Help for ConPhonemes

I would write /a e i ʌ ɘ u/ with ⟨a e i o w u⟩, so using ⟨u⟩ for /u/ and writing the central vowel with ⟨w⟩ instead. (This is quite similar to what Welsh does.) Actually, Welsh uses ⟨u⟩ for /ɨ/ and ⟨w⟩ for /u/, so the OP's scheme is closer to that than your suggestion is. Here's my own suggestion f...
by cedh
Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:38 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Critique Thread
Replies: 61
Views: 50837

Re: Sound Change Critique Thread

If some of the falling diphthongs feel out of place, here are a few alternative suggestions for them: - */øː yː/ could break into rising diphthongs instead, giving either /we wi/ or */jo ju/ (with the latter then shifting to /jə jo/) - similarly, */oː/ could break into /wo/ or /wə/ - */ei ey ɔu/ cou...
by cedh
Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:21 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4751
Views: 2181771

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

The only reason to posit a Completive aspect is because when you transform an Active Past in completive usage into its passive, you get a verb that looks like a Mediopassive Present as the result. Corbett has suggested "non-autonomous values" to refer to a situation like the one you descr...
by cedh
Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:42 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3068
Views: 2926636

Re: Conlang Random Thread

If what you are asking is whether its plausible to have quantifiers that look like (or have grammaticalized from) possessive phrases with number agreement, then yes, I think this could work. Words like "set/entirety", "mass/collection/amount/majority", "group/handful/minorit...
by cedh
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:19 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: British Politics Guide
Replies: 1951
Views: 1046665

Re: British Politics Guide

Or make it a multistage process. One vote to seek independence/unification (within a certain window of time, to prevent another "endless Brexit" scenario) and another to approve the actual plan, with "no deal" not an option. Wait... How does that work? The way I understand it, i...
by cedh
Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:39 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 840752

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

/tʰ/ > /s/ in most cluster environments would indeed make a lot of sense if /pʰ/ and /kʰ/ also usually become fricatives. I'd personally tend to include a few exceptions though, for instance /tʰ/ > /t/ when adjacent to at least /s/ but quite possibly all coronal consonants, and/or /tʰ/ > /r̥/ > /r/ ...