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- Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:20 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Dual Indefinites – SAE or Common?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 18306
Re: Dual Indefinites – SAE or Common?
I've regained access to the Shopen. His data is mostly European, but he says he's not sure if that's because emphatic coordination of this general sort is less common outside of Europe, or just because his sources for non-European languages don't cover it. He makes this point especially for emphatic...
- Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:00 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Dual Indefinites – SAE or Common?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 18306
Re: Dual Indefinites – SAE or Common?
(Actually I seem to recall that "both... and" is itself a fairly uncommon pattern, something analogous to "and... and" being more widespread, fwiw.)
- Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:53 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Dual Indefinites – SAE or Common?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 18306
Re: Dual Indefinites – SAE or Common?
If I remember right, Haspelmath's chapter on coordination in Volume 2 of Language Typology and Syntactic Description (Shopen, ed) has a discussion of at least "both... and" and "neither... nor", and indicates that having a dedicated "neither... nor" is rare. (But I don'...
- Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:06 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4930
- Views: 2346963
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Thanks Richard W! Been a long time since I've gotten lost in Sanskrit verbs...
- Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:16 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4930
- Views: 2346963
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Anyone know of a language or languages with prefixed past tense(s) but suffixed future(s)? (A mood marker that can be used with a future sense would also work. I'm not really bothered if the markers are particles or clitics rather than affixes. I'd be especially interested in any such language that ...
- Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:38 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Minimal pairs for /t͡s/ and /ts/ in Polish?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 8587
Re: Minimal pairs for /t͡s/ and /ts/ in Polish?
I believe that in the examples I've seen, /ts/ is always across a morpheme boundary. Does that sound possible?
- Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:20 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Profanity. Is it cultural or a universal feature of languages?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 26389
Re: Profanity. Is it cultural or a universal feature of languages?
I'm pretty sure it's exactly as you'd probably guess---there's cursing everywhere you might go, but different cultures draw on different domains for their cursing. (Like, if you had to make a guess about the context in which "chalice" and "tabernacle" are curses, you'd probably b...
- Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:46 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Can phonemic mergers reverse?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 32658
Re: Can phonemic mergers reverse?
(I wonder if there's a linguistic term for that, BTW... faux-dialectal spellings like "sez".) Pronunciation spellings? (Kidding.) Another example is the use of "-in'" in place of "-ing" for the verbal ending, encoding more the class or dialect or whatever of the speake...
- Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:07 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Resources Thread
- Replies: 99
- Views: 77717
Re: Resources Thread
I've just started looking at Derek Nurse, Tense and Aspect in Bantu. Very interesting! Besides the book itself, people might find its online appendices worth browsing---they give annotated tense/aspect paradigms for over 100 Bantu languages. Here: Appendix One and Appendix Two.
- Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:05 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Agreement with the patient, but not the agent
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7907
Re: Agreement with the patient, but not the agent
Am I being dense or is this just marked-absolutative ergative agreement? It's not clear that it's agreement at all (see above). But if it's agreement, it's agreement with the P argument, namely the object of a transitive verb, which I guess could be called accusative(-only) agreement, but I'm not s...
- Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:24 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Tensed adjectives?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 14242
Re: Tensed adjectives?
In Nuuchahnulth, nouns can take tense affixes, e.g. house+past = 'what used to be a house', grandfather+past = '(my) late grandfather'. But it may be more accurate to say that roots can take both noun-like and verb-like affixes, the 'outermost' ones determining the syntactic class. Do you happen to...
- Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:29 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1412
- Views: 856492
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
...Oops. s is voiceless, so it's very unlikely that it has its own tone. So when the diagrams show it linked to a low tone, you've got to interpret that as meaning that it tends to lower the pitch of the preceding vowel. But I don't think that changes the results: v́v́s → v́v̀ , and v̀v̀s → v̀v̀ . S...
- Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:00 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Tensed adjectives?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 14242
Re: Tensed adjectives?
I'd have thought that genuine TAM marking implied clausal structure, so that any time you have TAM marking on an attributive adjective, you've got a relative clause (since a relative clause is just a clause used attributively). (I don't know anything specific about TAM-marking on nouns. Can these be...
- Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:54 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1412
- Views: 856492
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
When consecutive morae have the same pitch, it's likely that you've got a single tone linked to both morae. So, for your initial situation, you've likely got something like one of these: L H L /|\ |\ | μ μ μ μ μ μ |/ | |/ | V s V s If you lose the s , the following...
- Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:38 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Tensed adjectives?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 14242
Re: Tensed adjectives?
How flexible are the attributive markers? Do they occur only with the descriptive verbs?
- Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:50 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Tensed adjectives?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 14242
Re: Tensed adjectives?
Hard to count participles as un-verb-y, though.
- Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:03 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Tensed adjectives?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 14242
Re: Tensed adjectives?
You could use temporal adverbs ("once", "formerly") rather than tense marking strictly speaking, otherwise I think you'd need a relative clause of some sort.
- Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:30 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Tensed adjectives?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 14242
Re: Tensed adjectives?
Do you mean specifically predicative adjectives, or attributive ones as well?
- Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:09 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 574
- Views: 683091
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
They're all fine for me; it didn't even occur to me that could be your problem with the first example. ("serve everyone with beer" is at least ambiguous, "serve her with beer" isn't for me, given that it's a pronoun).
- Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:02 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1412
- Views: 856492
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
In Chinese it's supposed to have resulted in a 去聲 (falling tone).