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by akam chinjir
Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Shortest words for basic concepts
Replies: 67
Views: 55124

Re: Shortest words for basic concepts

Maybe Mandarin yǔ 語 for a tie? One segment and a tone; but maybe you wouldn't consider it a free morpheme.
by akam chinjir
Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:18 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Shortest words for basic concepts
Replies: 67
Views: 55124

Re: Shortest words for basic concepts

Turkish has yaz and kış for summer and winter.
by akam chinjir
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:37 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3069
Views: 2939909

Re: Conlang Random Thread

You can incorporate a preposition into the verb. (Couldn't tell you under what circumstances that's likely to happen, though.)
by akam chinjir
Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:26 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Akiatu scratchpad (questions)
Replies: 74
Views: 43020

Akiatu scratchpad (raising and control, again)

Raising and control, again Rather a long time ago I said that there's no pure raising in Akiatu. (It was long enough ago that I'll repeat myself a bit, but here is the earlier post.) Take this sentence: itamu₁ itakitai mwi ____₁ rawu Itamu seem SS feel.good Itamu₁ seems ____₁ to be satisfied There'...
by akam chinjir
Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:16 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Telpahké: the thread - Verbal Morphology
Replies: 76
Views: 74466

Re: Telpahké: the thread - Transitivity and voice assignment

You can edit the title of the first post in the thread.
by akam chinjir
Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:05 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Shortest words for basic concepts
Replies: 67
Views: 55124

Re: Shortest words for basic concepts

Lots of Mandarin one-phoneme examples, though I suppose tone should be counted as well. (In this context I suppose yì 譯 translate and yì 意 idea, meaning might be my favourite examples.)
by akam chinjir
Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:04 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841772

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Are there examples of syncope, or other cluster-producing changes, from highly synthetic and mostly prefixing languages (Navajo, perhaps?) which might be helpful here? The Mayan language Mam has widespread deletion of pretonic vowels and reduction of posttonic vowels to schwa. It's not mostly prefi...
by akam chinjir
Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:03 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Confusing headlines
Replies: 708
Views: 565291

Re: Confusing headlines

mèþru wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:44 am New York white supremacist sword attacker pleads guilty (from BBC)
The headline sounds to me like the sword attacker killed a white supremacist, but the supremacist is the attacker.
My first parsing had someone attacking a white supremacist sword.
by akam chinjir
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:52 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 513657

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Pre-nominal relative clauses in a VO language? Not likely. (← All varieties of Chinese known to me.)
by akam chinjir
Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:28 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Akiatu scratchpad (questions)
Replies: 74
Views: 43020

Akiatu scratchpad (locative subjects)

Locative subjects Akiatu topics, as I've so far discussed them, are sort of weighty, discourse-pragmatics-wise. That's to say, they're never used just to track the continuing subject-matter of a stretch of discourse, they're used to reorient discourse, or introduce context or background. And this i...
by akam chinjir
Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:17 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: The Itamu tradition: first encounter with slavers
Replies: 4
Views: 2773

Re: First encounter: full commentary

Thanks for the feedback! In a narrative of this size you can showcase or illustrate the syntax and discourse peculiarities of your language a bit. And test! (And force yourself to do some worldbuilding.) The only thing I missed is some extra funky reduplication patterns, as it would have also fit we...
by akam chinjir
Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: The Itamu tradition: first encounter with slavers
Replies: 4
Views: 2773

First encounter: full commentary

Interlinear commentary Here I'll give a full gloss of the story, with some linguistic and other commentary. The result is stupidly long, though, so I'm hiding it between more tags. ai VOC Attend! ai is used to attract someone's attention, a bit like "hey" (but in a less-marked register). ...
by akam chinjir
Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:26 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: The Itamu tradition: first encounter with slavers
Replies: 4
Views: 2773

First encounter: background and context

Background and context The story is set a few hundred years before the time I'm currently thinking of as the present (which is the time at which the variant of Akiatu I've been describing is spoken). That's plenty enough distance that a certain amount of anachrony and mythologisation are certainly ...
by akam chinjir
Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:19 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: The Itamu tradition: first encounter with slavers
Replies: 4
Views: 2773

The Itamu tradition: first encounter with slavers

The first encounter with the slavers It's about time there were texts in Akiatu, here's one. It narrates an encounter between the culture hero Itamu and a group of supposed traders from the society that introduced agriculture to the regions neigbouring the Akiatu River basin. Here I'll give the tex...
by akam chinjir
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:11 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Akiatu scratchpad (questions)
Replies: 74
Views: 43020

Akiatu scratchpad (ki, the definite determiner)

ki (the definite determiner) Yeah, that all makes sense to me. Reduplication + diachrony definitely sounds fun and productive. And on to the next thing, the particle ki , which was one of Akiatu's first two or three words. It's accumulated a few adjustments since I last wrote about it, which affect...
by akam chinjir
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Akiatu scratchpad (questions)
Replies: 74
Views: 43020

Re: Akiatu scratchpad (partial reduplication)

I'll take it :) Reduplicants can definitely become independent phonologically, with their own stress and so on, and you can get similar reductions in compounds (I think especially synonym compounds, I've been trying and failing to dig up the examples I thought I remembered). I don't know that they o...
by akam chinjir
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Rawàng Ata: quick feedback on a couple of diachronic syntax issues?
Replies: 12
Views: 4055

Re: Rawàng Ata: quick feedback on a couple of diachronic syntax issues?

It doesn't have to be about new information, though. Some examples, with italics to mark (narrow) focus: They only criticised Sam's fur coat (and not, e.g., splash paint on it) They only criticised Sam 's fur coat (and not, e.g., Mel's) They only criticised Sam's fur coat (and not, e.g., their leath...
by akam chinjir
Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:17 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Akiatu scratchpad (questions)
Replies: 74
Views: 43020

Re: Akiatu scratchpad (partial reduplication)

Ah, sorry for misunderstanding, it's a good point. Unfortunately, I think my answer's going to have to be that I'll deal with ambiguities like that on a case-by-case basis. (And they'll no doubt arise even without borrowing, given how simple Akiatu phonology is.) (And thanks for the questions and su...
by akam chinjir
Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:30 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Akiatu scratchpad (questions)
Replies: 74
Views: 43020

Re: Akiatu scratchpad (partial reduplication)

It's tricky, because those forms do in some ways behave like independent words. But, as far as I know that sort of reduction is always associated with reduplication, even in languages where it also shows up in compounds. The main alternative, I think, is to treat it as a particular sort of compoundi...
by akam chinjir
Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:36 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Akiatu scratchpad (questions)
Replies: 74
Views: 43020

Re: Akiatu scratchpad (partial reduplication)

It's not fully mapped out yet, but yeah, the idea is that it'll happen with other verbs too---when used as resultative complements, it'll be their reduced (reduplication) form that's used. I think it'll be especially common when using stative verbs as resultative complements to yield a sort of causa...