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Iç dleins his vusçes ewrig dâ, iwn thê tnaws fat iç mein.
[ɨʒ dlɛ̃ĩ̯s ɨz vʊʃəz ɛu̯rɨtʃ dɑː ɪu̯n ðɛ tnɔːz fat ɨdʒ mɛ̃ĩ̯n]

Tseerkav mij siidâst ᴉlleäm. Ƨkɔɔȣl leäi de tɔ̃n-i c̰nne tseerkven ʞnɐ̤ss papp puätt. Tseerkav leäi tɔb Risttʞ̭əəddest. Ʇcben ſ̣ɐ̥tte kȣ ɯəəst ᴉlleäm tseerkav. Papp ʞnɐ̤ss pȣätt d̠c̰c̰zzid ꞁəbe veänttsɔ̃ɔ̃ttâm diɔ̃tt kåčča de ƨkɔɔȣlâst-i c̰nne. Ʇcsʇ leäi ɐte ƨkɔɔȣlâst tuâggd̠əɐ̤ꞁuu zɐ̤ɐ̤vesǩ pijjum ...

That looks Slavic to me, but I'm not sure if it's Russian per se (those <w>s appear non-Russian to me). <w> /v/ because <v> /n/ (nu) because <n> /ʲu/ aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa клубень klȣbeu Органические кислоты обусловливают кислотность клеточного сока картофеля. Ɔrgani𝼃es...

So... Nort, Did you transliterate a Russian(?) recipe in a transliteration incorporating the idea of rotation to represent phonemic contrasts...? I don't know Russian, but I recognise potatoes and tomatoes... Edit: wait, it's gardening instructions, right? Snippet from the Russian Wikipedia page fo...

Trawɐvistɔe rastevie, dɔstiganᔕee w wᴉsɔtu bɔꞁee 1 metra. Stebeꞁ gɔlᴉj, rebristᴉj. ʞasʇ stebꞁɐ, pɔgru𑨖cvvaɐ w pɔʞwu, wᴉpuskaet dꞁivvᴉe pɔbegi (dꞁivɔj 15—20, u vekɔtɔrᴉh sɔrtɔw 40—50 sm). Ꞁist kartɔfeꞁɐ tcmvɔ-zeꞁcvᴉj, prerᴉwistɔ-veparvɔperistɔrasseʞcvvᴉj, sɔstɔit iz kɔveʞvɔj dɔꞁi, veskɔꞁkih par (3—7)...

Are there people who say [bʊf] for "boof", [fʊf] for "foof", [pʊf] for "poof", or [lʊfə] for "loofah"? Australian English has /bʊf/ "clumsy/stupid person" and /pʊf/ "gay man", but those probably aren't the words you have in mind. /buːf/ &q...

Do we have any examples of languages in which conjugation for person has been lost in all but one or a few very common verbs? I'm imagining a situation where the copula, for example, still distinguishes person such that the subject pronoun can be dropped, but all or nearly all other verbs require t...

For /tɬ/ without /ɬ/, PHOIBLE has Nahuatl, Wintu, and Squamish, and IPHON has Bawm. Wintu and Squamish look dubious, but Nahuatl is a known case. Reichle 1981 agrees that Bawm doesn't have /ɬ/, but analyzes <tl thl> as the only clusters in the language, which seems silly - why not unit /tɬ tɬʰ/?

Lemme guess - alternate history Germanic-lang? The combination of features it has makes it not likely to be descended from any extant Germanic language. English expands earlier and is displaced by French in the Norman Conquest, leaving the present day with a variety of Anglic minority languages, su...

The tjâud vunter es niâch, oa snoubloys sjouw komme. Kom in my veurrem ûs, my vrêun. Velkom! Kom thê fuyr, sing en douns, uyt en drink. That is my plan. V'au votter, biôr, ən meullek nîew ef the kuw. Ai, en at sûp. [ðə tʃæu̯d vʊntər əs njæːx, ə znɔu̯bləi̯s ʃɔu̯ kɔmə || kɔm ɪn mi vʌrəm uːs mi vrʌːn ...

[fluːf], [hʊf], [ruːf] for me. I wouldn't have predicted the existence of [flʊf]. Are there people who say [bʊf] for "boof", [fʊf] for "foof", [pʊf] for "poof", or [lʊfə] for "loofah"?

Starostin isn't Nyland, but neither are Ehret or Proulx. There's a difference between bad linguists and cranks. I don't even know that I'd call Ruhlen a crank. (Gell-Mann tho, absolutely.) Blevins has been arguing for Indo-Vasconic for years, but I don't see any reason to hold her comparative work i...

poor boor moor: /por bor mor/
to pour: /por/
tour: /tor/
tourist: either /ˈtorɪst/ or /ˈtɚɪst/, not sure at this point
tournament: /ˈtɚnəmɨnt/
tourniquet /ˈtɚnɨkɨt/
Tourette syndrome /tərˈɛt/

paths/truths -θs although /pæðz/ is correct

Darren wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:26 pm

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:55 pm Stieber 1973, A Historical Phonology of the Polish Language

Would you be able to post a full list of changes?

I'm working on Albanian but can try to get Polish after that

Darren wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:33 pm Would you happen to have any good sources on Polish changes? There's definitely some good data out there but nothing afaict online.

Stieber 1973, A Historical Phonology of the Polish Language

Darren wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:00 am - *ę ǫ become /ɛ̃ ɔ̃/ in Polish

In a sense, yes; in a sense, no. They merge as Middle Polish ø, then short and long ø become /ɛ̃ ɔ̃/.

Speaking of Rennellese, Elbert's 1988 grammar has some sound changes for the Rennell and Bellona dialects. Segments: <p t k '> /p t̪ k ʔ/ <g> /ŋg/ <b s gh h> /β ʃ ɣ h/ (/s/ is a "voiceless alveo-palatal fricative") <m n ng> /m n̪ ŋ/ <l> /l/ (presumably from earlier *ð, since in the first w...

bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:31 am

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:09 am Rennellese 'orthographic g' is [ŋg].

Reference please?

Biggs 1978, p. 12

Rennellese 'orthographic g' is [ŋg]. "Luangia" should be "Luangiua". What about palatalization? - t > č > s / _i in Tongan - t > s / _i in Pileni - t > č / _i in "East Futunan and the Aniwan dialect of Futuna-Aniwa" - t > ʃ / _i in the Futunan dialect of West Futunan

I note that it's undecided whether they need a preceding glottal stop character at the start of a word. Is there something funny or incomplete about the requirement for a Qiang word to start with a consonant? Or perhaps they have contrastive word-initial glottal stop? (Not that I’d know anything ab...