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by Nortaneous
Sat May 20, 2023 5:05 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang fluency thread
Replies: 2653
Views: 1555815

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Nniaxjot tqpbbv fup mthzxpvp hapya. Dqtdqt nha fup chip.
[ɲ̩˧ɲæ˥˩dʑo˥ tɒ˩mbʙʉ˧ ɸu˩m̩˥xə˥˩pʙ̥ʉ̥ xa˩jæ˧ || dɒ˥dɒ˥ n̩˧xa˧ ɸu˩ tɕi˩]
CLF-cat=TOP house PST=DIR-move\EGO-CAUS like_that || quality CLF-3 PST bring_forth
We got a cat that way once. He was a good cat.
by Nortaneous
Tue May 16, 2023 8:59 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang fluency thread
Replies: 2653
Views: 1555815

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Dvtwqnpjet yet katchanlpiat wunlczlxi? [dʙʉ̩̃˥w̃ɒ̃˩dʑe˥ je˥ ka˥tɕæ̃˧pɕæ˥ wũ˧tsə̥ɕi̥] weave-language=TOP.Q E.TOP three-consonant difficult-AUG Are glosses for triconsonantal languages so difficult? official register: Mxljitye yinlwqnpye dvtnyixnyixmqpjet yinwqnpchix yinpiatye katrhyp yinrhzpye yinch...
by Nortaneous
Sat May 13, 2023 5:52 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Annual Eurovision thread
Replies: 6
Views: 990

Re: Annual Eurovision thread

It is no longer trivial to watch from the US (I do not "pay" for "streaming services") but I've already forgotten all the other entries and don't care. Even the twinks were boring. When will they bring back Achille Lauro? When will Georgia renew trade relations with Colorado and ...
by Nortaneous
Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:14 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Experiences in non-intelligiblity in your native language
Replies: 22
Views: 3349

Re: Experiences in non-intelligiblity in your native language

Every time I say "countable nouns" [ˈkʰæɔ̯nəbʊ ˈnæɔ̯nz], some of my colleagues hear it as "cannibal nouns" [ˈkʰænəbʊ ˈnæɔ̯nz]. Once I was talking to a linguistics grad student (from a few hours north of me - had the /æ/-/eə/ contrast) about the syllabification of words in <ow(e)...
by Nortaneous
Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:05 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Irregular raising of [E] to [I]
Replies: 38
Views: 3301

Re: Irregular raising of [E] to [I]

One of my pet hates is when a song will rhyme "again" with a FACE word but still say it with the DRESS vowel. Like, you've got the option to make it rhyme and it's clearly meant to and you're just choosing to say the variant that doesn't rhyme? Why??? Poetic tradition; cf. the requirement...
by Nortaneous
Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:08 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Replies: 164
Views: 346339

Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)

The cot-caught merger is generally absent from the Mid-Atlantic and South as well. From New Jersey to Maryland (or maybe northern Virginia) THOUGHT is realized with a schwa offglide in various circumstances, ranging from unconditionally to optionally under complicated circumstances to only in the wo...
by Nortaneous
Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:18 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang fluency thread
Replies: 2653
Views: 1555815

Re: Conlang fluency thread

Rbòr ỉngrudash te doú mzùn na melrán, nRảb nman dàr, ngoủl?
[ʁbòˁʁ ɪ̌ŋgð̩əs̠t̪θɨ mɹʌ̀nə mɪçʁán nʁæ̌o̯ nməndɒ̀ˁ ŋɯ̌ç]
C4-fake England-ADJ FOC REL.IRR 2M.DAT STAT.IRR C4-want<2S> C4-be_like that Q
Well, if it's fake English you want, Rau is fake English, isn't it?
by Nortaneous
Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:35 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Replies: 164
Views: 346339

Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)

the line between the different lengths can vary; he lists the relevant syllables in chaotic, archaic, Baconian as short and in fatally, bakery, bay-berry, payroll as half-long; vacation is [veˈkeˑʃən] Could this be related to the distinction between <ā ē ī ō ū> and <ā̇ ē̇ ī̇ ō̇ ū̇> in this 1892 dic...
by Nortaneous
Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:04 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Replies: 164
Views: 346339

Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)

"In several regions of the Atlantic seaboard a glide vowel is introduced between a preceding [k], [g] and [ɑː], as in the Virginia pronunciation of carter [kɪˈɑːtə], garden [gɪˈɑːdən], but this pronunciation is distinctly local or dialectal" — what the fuck?? Also found in Channel Islands...
by Nortaneous
Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:33 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Annual Eurovision thread
Replies: 6
Views: 990

Annual Eurovision thread

The season is nigh.

In a shocking twist, only one country has entered this year, leaving Croatia to win by default. Just kidding, of course! They'll be eliminated in the semifinals like Achille Lauro and those Georgian jazz bands because democracy is a sham and we need a king.
by Nortaneous
Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:11 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4924
Views: 2345589

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

bradrn wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:10 am
Nortaneous wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:54 am Tibetan and Burmese look relatively closely related within TB to me.
Really? Why?
Basically vibes. It's not something I've thought about too much. But my guess is that Tibetic, Burmic, and Rgyalrongic are more closely related to each other than any is to, say, Kuki-Chin.
by Nortaneous
Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:54 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4924
Views: 2345589

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Roger Blench has proposed, how seriously I'm not sure, that Tibetan, Burmese and Chinese are relatively closely related within Tibeto-Burman! (He's also suggested that some TB languages might not be TB at all!) Tibetan and Burmese look relatively closely related within TB to me. Chinese not so much...
by Nortaneous
Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:47 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4924
Views: 2345589

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

A proposed abandonment of Mon-Khmer in opposition to the Munda languages got me thinking about the eponymous languages. Is there any evidence that they close to one another within the context of SE Asian Austroasiatic languages? I thought I'd seen claims, but when I googled for such an idea, I coul...
by Nortaneous
Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:43 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Proto-Langs
Replies: 40
Views: 3196

Re: Proto-Langs

If they're protolangs, why are they reconstructed like that? They don't need to have realistic phonologies. PIE doesn't. Why does PIE have a vowel system of *e *o? Well, zero-grades let you get rid of high vowels, and laryngeal theory removes *ə and most *a, at which point remaining *a looks seconda...
by Nortaneous
Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:04 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Random Thread
Replies: 4015
Views: 566336

Re: Random Thread

An odd question but something I have always wondered. Plenty of chemical substances cause euphoria or pleasure when consumed. But does anything have the opposite effect, making you miserable? yes (source: I know some people who've had a bad time with psychiatric prescriptions - a category with much...
by Nortaneous
Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:31 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: The Allosphere
Replies: 86
Views: 89118

Re: The Allosphere

What is the phonological history of Rau anyway? There are probably various alternations. Things that are known: - The velar/uvular contrast is really front velar/back velar, with "velars" acting like palatals. - There was at one point *tʲ, but it had already become s̺t. Newer t in palatali...
by Nortaneous
Mon Mar 06, 2023 6:47 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: From a noob: Is this a realistic phonology?
Replies: 21
Views: 2078

Re: From a noob: Is this a realistic phonology?

/f v w/ with no **/z ɣ/ seems not too unreasonable, but /ʍ/ seems implausibly unsystematic - where are the other voiceless sonorants? It could instead be /xʷ/, but then you'd expect /kʷ gʷ/. Maybe instead /ʍ w/ are featurally something like /ɸʷ βʷ/ that split from /f v/ somehow? (Before rounded vowe...
by Nortaneous
Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:42 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 1045
Views: 1120870

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

Now, if Tocharian shows clear traces of a rounded quality for PIE *o , then we either need to assume that the rounding to *o must have taken place before Tocharian split off, in which case the traditional assumption of a development *o > a for Balto-Slavic, Germanic, and Indo-Iranian still applies,...
by Nortaneous
Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:50 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 1045
Views: 1120870

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

Some of those features in question may include things such as: ... - The realization of *o as a back rounded vowel (in this case, secondarily lost in Indo-Iranian) Don't Italic and Celtic reflect back rounded *o? And Albanian has *ō > *ö > e, although I vaguely remember this having problems.
by Nortaneous
Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:35 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 1067
Views: 520541

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Anyway what if Rau was also like that Initials: /p b t d dʐ~r kʲ ɡʲ k ʕ/ <p b t d dr k gi q g> /θ ð s̺ z̺ ɬ ɮ xʲ ɣʲ x ɣ/ <hs h hr r hl l hy y hx x> /m n ŋ/ <m n ñ> Finals: /a e ə o i ɯ/ <a e v o i w> /au jəu əu jɯu ɯu/ <au eu ou iu u> /æ ø y/ <c co cu> /aɹ eɹ əɹ oɹ jʌɹ/ <ar er vr or ir> /ai ei əi oi...