Zompist Bboard Again

my trajectory looks like giving up.

in the course of my researches i have had to develop basic reading comprehension in technical french, but it doesn't seem like a useful enough language to take the time to learn beyond that

I think on the contrary, the "PIE internal etymology" is likely a chance resemblance. :) and this is based upon...? First of all, the purported protoform **perḱ- 'to dig' isn't attested as such but only as noun derivatives from a 0-grade *prḱ- , namely Latin porca 'ridge between two furro...

But this is probably a coincidence. What makes you say that? There aren't enough other intermediates to make it clearly a Wanderwort (PST is far from NEC), it's short enough and matching is loose enough that some coincidences would be expected, and the PIE internal etymology is convincing. Then aga...

The thing about Wanderwörter is that they tend to diffuse through all languages between their source and target: e.g. reflexes of Proto-TNG *mugu can be found in TNG, Austronesian, Dravidian, Indo-Aryan, Sino-Tibetan, Kusunda, Austroasiatic, Afroasiatic and Niger-Congo ( source ), getting closer an...

Talskubilos wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:48 pm

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:45 pmSo you're just going to keep saying "But I don't believe this thing staring me in the face" and making emoji?

A pig is a pig and a digging is a digging.

We've been over this before - there's good semantic backing for that etymology. See here and here.

The likelihood of chance resemblances certainly does goes up as you sample more words and languages; but it also goes down as you tighten restrictions on phonological and semantic similarities. Currently the range of phonogical correspondences accepted by mainstream historical linguists is very nar...

In any case, " bh " (/bʰ/) became /b/ in Balto-Slavic and Albanian, not /p/, and I'm not aware of any alternations between /p/ and /b/ in Slavic. I assume Talskubilos knows that (I may be wrong). What I'm referring to are theories I've seen on the net that all labials / velars / dental se...

Oh, I’d say they hardly even need explanation — bipartite roots are reported from all over the world ( Klamath , Nakh-Daghestanian , Limbu, Puare, possibly Skou ), though from what I can see there are no cases as clear as Hiding Waters. Even so, it certainly doesn’t seem any more unusual than, say,...

Emily wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:21 am i'm also toying with analogizing a 3rd-person dual pronoun although maybe this would be a bridge too far lol

pronouns can do whatever

(also consider Tocharian, where the 1SG pronouns are etymologically difficult)

bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:02 am I found this construction interesting:

zompist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:59 am He's an RL friend.

Personally, I would say ‘a RL friend’, with the other article. Which option does everyone else prefer?

I prefer to rephrase such constructions so I don't have to decide

The development Nortaneous mentioned: a strong word stress, with subsequent vowel breaking and loss of posttonic vowels ( tela > teile > toile ,compare Occ. tela ) is sometimes attributed to Frankish. That's entirely hypothetical, though. It's hypothetical, sure, but if you've ever heard an Angloph...

No-one seriously claims they are. Even the people who made the reconstruction usually admit that it’s an imperfect process. (And if they don’t, they’re a crackpot.) Interestingly, some of these protoforms ("roots" in the traditional terminology) have correspondences between them and also ...

I'd nominate English as another example, though oddly enough, I dont know a whole lot about the history my own native language .... Scots, for example, is fairly close to modern English, and it seems difficult to attribute the parallel changes in Scots and English to Norman French influence since S...

it'd be trivial to sell preppers on bamboo fiber. and then i could buy bamboo locally for cheap. why has no one done this. am i the only person who remembers the spate of articles around 2014 like "why are tea partiers getting into photovoltaic cells" Igorrr : ieuD (doG) I do not know the ...

/p t ʈ c k q/ <p t th tj k q> /(b d)/ <p' t'> /m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ <m n nh nj ñ> /r/ <r> /θ s ʂ/ <z s sh> /w l j/ <w l y> /i ɨ u e o æ a/ <i v u e o x a> /á à á: à: â: ǎ:/ <af ac ah ag ab ad> /aˀ/ <aa> /ɳpà kkùːŋ ŋanéattiŋ wʂæ̀irtan mèo ŋθáŋset || kkùːŋ ŋaɳæ̀ir ketàːŋ kkùŋ tměa sθaŋkʂéant/ Nhpac kkuñg ñaneaf...

The full journal issue also looks fascinating, in that it contains both Forni’s article, several researchers’ rebuttals, then his reply. Unfortunately they have been very careful to paywall the whole thing, so I can’t assess it properly. https://www.academia.edu/3811354/On_Forni_s_Basque_Indo-Europ...

I've just watched this YouTube video about Vulgar Latin, made by an American. Every time he says "Latin" he makes an effort to fully pronounce the /t/, where Americans usually pronounce it something like /læʔn/ as far as I can tell. I don't know why, but it sounds very creepy and disconce...

I've already expressed we aren't playing the "But what about this not-presently-relevant thing, though? Talk about this so I can control the narrative and never actually address any valid criticisms!" game today. You're welcome to pursue whatever problems with Pfizer all you like, but it ...

Please explain. You like silly ideas and deflecting from any sort of serious criticism by bringing up an irrelevant topic and asking that it be talked about instead? I don't see what Pfizer has to do with anything, but you may elaborate at length on why this means Trump didn't do something he did o...

They don't much seem to care for things that were common in the past, like the breakup of monopolies, or the institution of policies to give the economy more long-term stability, and neither do they seem to like the sort of United States that mobilised in the face of large-scale perceived threats w...