Zompist Bboard Again

They don't much seem to care for things that were common in the past, like the breakup of monopolies, or the institution of policies to give the economy more long-term stability, and neither do they seem to like the sort of United States that mobilised in the face of large-scale perceived threats w...

Attempting to overturn a legitimate, democratic election both with legal machinations and by force and install the defeated incumbent in power as a dictator surely sounds authoritarian to me. i agree that the russiagate hoax and the anti-trump riots were fucked up You're just spewing right-wing tal...

bradrn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:01 pm

even phonosyntax (burmese developing tonal word class distinctions from phrase-final creaky voice)

Sorry, what‽

Can't find citation, possibly I hallucinated this

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:01 pm Also from verbs — shake, shook; take, took; I guess foot, feet follows the pattern more closely, but I find the transference... weird.

Different vowel, but that seems like a possible alternate explanation

I don't know, but I have had the idea for just such a conlang! What IE branch should it belong to? My idea was that it was related to Tocharian. Tocharian converged on the Ural-Altaic sprachbund* (if / to the extent that such a thing exists) rather than the Southeast Asian one, so I don't think thi...

ah, yes, authoritarians, defined by their disdain for legitimate authority, Well, yeah . marinus van der lubbe, right-wing authoritarian unless you mean to imply that the nazis themselves had a hand in the reichstag fire? i don't think that's still in favor among the relevant historians, but i do t...

stuff I disagree. Wikipedia is a highly useful resource and many conlangers have said stated such. Academic literature is good, but Wikipedia often has the advantages of time (pages are generally a good summary) and accessibility (no paywall: if you can't access a resource, it's useless). wikipedia...

I was implying that you associate progressivism with "authoritarian personalities", i.e. that progressives gravitate towards whichever movement holds more power, as if the right weren't authoritarian despite everything we have seen about them (cough cough attempting a coup). ah, yes, auth...

Optimality theory, on the other hand… ...would be the COBOL of phonology if it paid I was under the impression that, of all the purportedly universal formal linguistic theories, OT worked the best, aside from its little uncomputability problem. (I’ve never understood why they don’t just add input c...

authoritarian personalities gravitate toward whichever movement holds more power I'm confused. Wouldn't that make corporations flee the left like rats from a sinking ship? And how would that affect liberals' feelings about the authoritarians? Nortaneous erroneously associates liberals with "au...

bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:01 pm Optimality theory, on the other hand…

...would be the COBOL of phonology if it paid

Another thing which is probably relevant to phonology is the relative amount of information which is packed into each syllable. Compare, for example, Goidelic, Germanic, and Finnish, in which initial syllables make many more distinctions than following syllables, with Spanish or Italian, where ther...

What's wrong with PIE *h₁éḱwos , *ḱr̥sós being native inherited vocabulary? This *krs-o- (why ḱ ?) is a "regional" (in Mallory-Adams' terminology) restricted to Latin, Celtic and Gemanic. As a matter of fact, there're other 'horse' words in IE, namely *marko- , only found in Celtic and Ge...

Moose-tache wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:00 am My question is, what in the living hell is making liberals more friendly toward corporations?

authoritarian personalities gravitate toward whichever movement holds more power

this is a Wanderwort linked to the domestication of the animal. ;) It doesn't surprise me at all that you are saying this, and I don't think I (or anyone else on this board) will ever convince you that your doubts against the validity of the standard model of Indo-European are unwarranted. The stan...

Two years ago a British transgender women sook asylum in New Zealand Sook << sought? that's what the poster later edited it to, so yes That's what I read it as, probably analogous with forsake, forsook or something similar? I didn't realise it was odd till I looked at it (I use sought , though). to...

- /a/ becomes /b/ before /c/... That's a pretty striking fortition. I'm guessing you first get a > u, then u > w and w > b. The conditioning environment is odd, but perhaps /c/ first becomes a labiovelar, which motivates the a > u raising? (I'm guessing that's not what you meant, but I found it amu...

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Sol717 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:35 am the aforementioned colloquial dissimilatory loss of unstressed /r/ as seen in ... deteriorate

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the hard part is that phonology interacts with other aspects of the language. not just morphology, but also root structure constraints distinct from word structure constraints, phonological operations that morphology can exploit (e.g. word-level backing in kusunda, short and long forms in mandarin),...