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Zju wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:44 am Afroasiatic, perchance? Berber or East African AA?

Nope.

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:41 am Chadic then?

EDIT: looks doubtful on further investigation. How about Southern Bantoid (excluding Bantu)?

Neither.

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 11:30 pm <ɨ> and <ʉ> = Africa. Nilotic?

Not Nilotic, but it's indeed spoken in Africa.

bradrn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:14 am South American? Amazonian?

Neither.

I don't know how you do it! Having eliminated the Heiban languages, I guessed the only Talodi language that has a bible translation, which was Lumun. I didn't look at the translation before guessing, though, only looking at it afterwards to confirm my guess. Anyway here's a new text: Mɨtʼɨ apíyéno,...

/m n/ <m n> /pʰ tʰ qʲʰ qʰ qʷʰ/ <p t ky k kw> /ɖ ɢʲ ɢ ɢʷ/ <d gy g gw> /bʱ ɖʱ ɢʲʱ ɢʱ ɢʷʱ/ <bh dh ghy gh ghw> /t͡ɬ t͡ʃ q͡χʲ q͡χ q͡χʷ/ <th ch khy kh khw> /d͡ʒ/ <j> /d͡ʒʱ/ <dj> /ʂ xʲ x xʷ/ <s xy x xw> /v ɣʲ ɣ ɣʷ/ <v qy q qw> /l r j w/ <l r y w> /i u/ <i u> /e eː o oː/ <e ee o oo> /m̩ n̩ l̩ r̩/ <m n l r>,...

Lumun?

Heiban?

Talodi-Heiban?

"Kordofanian".

/p pʰ b t tʰ d ʦ k kʰ ɡ ʔ/ <p ph b t th d ts k kh g q> /m m̥ n n̥ ŋ ŋ̊/ <m hm n hn ng hng> /ʃ h/ <sh h> /w l ɹ j/ <w l r y> /l̥ j̊/ <hl hy> /-ʔm -ʔn -ʔŋ -ʔl -ʔw -ʔj/ <mq nq ngq lq wq yq> /i ʉ u e ɘ o æ a ɔ/ <i v u e z o x a c> /á à â/ <a a' a"> /ʃéták kʰô=â kêj pʰrówtíʔ ìnípánêjní ʃɔ́ tɘ́mâ kín...

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:54 pm Borna

Yeah. That's what I get for looking at Bible websites.

Kon taash keewtsok'o danosh t shuutso maants wongr tieti, wongr tiettsok'onowere shawat c'eesho kuriru awntson doozetswotsi t bek'i, C'eeshi bewoki talotsnowere ash na'a artso tbek'i, bíwere b́ tufok b́ borfetso geenz taho tahdek't, b́ gerats awntsi edo eddek'ke b́ teshi. B́ tookonat b́ took s'iron...

Auye then. (But it really looks like Ekari, just with <s>.) There are actually dialects of Mee (as the speakers call it) with /s/ (usually derived from /t/ before i , IIRC). Not surprised, it's a common sound change in the general area. Anyway I've compiled all the Auye equivalents I could find of ...

Bïraþe i þai don, aw i ngahn na sed, i øsï lad. Ug ørrïm ji ngéðamajalgt kï kiyaðøø loi. Bïraþe, ad jii ug ørrïm ji degt kï ngéðamajal. Gaj lod i døningt lon ndïn ne kï død dõ koon. I ðoosï kamd kï nyag loi kïmbõ kïnat, kïtakad kam ngandg nden, na kï nyan ndega mad kïta ngandg kïdu tø. Na mî taa, m...

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:00 pm Chadic. Not Biu-Mandara. No lateral fricatives, /f/, or prenasalization. Seven vowels. <nyw-> and <-kng>. Boghom?

Damn. Yeah, Boghom. (How? I didn't manage to find anything else than this Bible translation, though I didn't look far enough.)

Hyow /p pʰ b t tʰ d ʦ k kʰ ɡ ʔ/ /m m̥ n n̥ ŋ ŋ̊/ /ʃ h/ /w l ɹ j/ /l̥ j̊/ The glottal stop only occurs in coda position, either by itself, or in a cluster with one of /m n ŋ l w j/. /i ʉ u e ɘ o æ a ɔ/ There are three tones, high, low, and falling. /ʃéták kʰô=â kêj pʰrówtíʔ ìnípánêjní ʃɔ́ tɘ́mâ kínít...

Malǝt wob yilang a yǝi Bapyi pang nɨmkaamǝt, shokgu tɨnna bǝi ɗyeemkɨnǝt am pang kǝrok kaam mwanas. Nyinnya dang ɓɨlǝm gyot bǝikyim nyinnya gwa ma yisɨm ko pang zhakɨzhei, Shok gu pang go'os pi dangki name Kyakng bi yisɨmas. Kwanang lwaanas a nɨ pyi mǝigu ma kwartawu, a bǝikyim da bǝikyim. Tɨ pi da...

Yeah I shouldn't of chosen a language so closely related to a widely known one Yeah. I have a hunch that Auye is most closely related with Ekari (and that Wolani, which is usually cited as subgrouping with Ekari, is more distantly related to both), but confirming would need a proper look at the dat...

Auye then. (But it really looks like Ekari, just with <s>.)