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- Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:53 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Different 'ands'?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 2369
Re: Different 'ands'?
Swedish has something like this, at least in the formal written language. The normal word for and is och , but the word samt is also available as a sort of ”higher level” conjunction. It’s not really that och is only used for ”units” (or natural as opposed to accidental combinations) though—it has m...
- Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:09 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4955
- Views: 2354891
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
In 1709, Jonathan Swift published A Tritical Essay Upon the Faculties of the Mind where tritical comes from trite and critical.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2914182
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2914182
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:36 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4955
- Views: 2354891
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
The first thing that comes to mind is that the Old English infinitive ended in /ɑn/ rather than the /æn/ expected from Anglo-Frisian brightening through the influence of this vowel. Do you happen to known of any sources for this idea besides Wikipedia? Unfortunately Wikipedia does not cite any sour...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:55 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4955
- Views: 2354891
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
About Ossetian cases Are Ossetian genitive and dative descended from PIE cases or a separate creation? The dative is certainly a separate creation, there is no PIE dative in *-n . The genitive doesn't look PIE, either. Looking at the table in Wikipedia , I have the impression that all Ossetian case...
- Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:21 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4955
- Views: 2354891
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I always understood coarticulations as phones with multiple simultaneous articulations at different POA, such as the [kp] and [gb] found in many Niger-Congo languages. I think the term coarticulation is used in multiple, but related, ways. It can refer to the doubly articulated consonants you menti...
- Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:04 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Legal Question About Bee Biology
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2274
Re: Legal Question About Bee Biology
The German Civil Code, as a classic example of German over-meticulousness and extreme obsessive-compulsiveness, has more than 2000 sections dealing with all kinds of matters. And because it is so extremely meticulous, among its more than 2000 sections, there are four sections (961, 962, 963, 964) t...
- Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:34 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English as a Scandinavian language?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4487
Re: English as a Scandinavian language?
I made a conlang Yorwicks, a descendant of Old Norse that survives to the present day in the Vale of Pickering (maybe some day I'll finish and publish it here). One thing I ultimately noticed is that if you use the right sound changes and grammatical developments you can basically make Yorwicks ind...
- Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:30 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English as a Scandinavian language?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4487
Re: English as a Scandinavian language?
Also, see this Language log post, which is from 2012, so not in response to the 2014 monograph per se, but Faarlund’s claims had received some media attention before that. https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=4351 This extract strikes me as interesting: Parallel but independent innovations in c...
- Sun Jun 05, 2022 5:04 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English as a Scandinavian language?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4487
Re: English as a Scandinavian language?
There was some discussion at the time. Here’s a response by Kristin Bech and George Walkden: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/nordic-journal-of-linguistics/article/english-is-still-a-west-germanic-language/FFF1593D4EC6A2E7D9671595509F0815 Also, here’s some back-and-forth between Faarlund and ...
- Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:32 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4955
- Views: 2354891
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
This may sound silly, but I am still somewhat confused about how the perfective aspect works. If the perfective marks verbs as completed and considered in their entirety, does that mean it generally implies past occurrence even in languages without grammatical tense marking? What about future-tense...
- Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:50 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4955
- Views: 2354891
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I myself have noticed that /kw/ and /gw/ for me are [kʷw̥~kʷw] and [kʷw~ɡʷw] respectively for me, i.e. they have a clear semivowel component but the plosive component is also labialized, but this is such a phonetic detail I rarely bother to mark it in transcriptions. That makes sense. A fun exercis...
- Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:43 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Early PIE stops
- Replies: 29
- Views: 11146
Re: Early PIE stops
Speaking of typology, my understanding is that a system with voiced fricatives contrasting with voiced stops but not with voiceless fricatives at the same point of articulation is very rare, although maybe not unattested. This is from WALS: Approximately another third (33.4%) of the languages survey...
- Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:20 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4955
- Views: 2354891
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
You might as well try to say /uu/ and /wu/ are the same. Well, of course they aren’t! However, in narrow transcription, [uu] and [wu] are the same, for precisely the same reason that [ii] and [ji] are the same. I think it's true that there is no well-defined (and generally agreed-upon) language-ind...
- Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:50 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4955
- Views: 2354891
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
i'd expect that if this happened, it would soon resolve itself back to having stress on the stem, or towards a stressless language (Ive seen French described as stressless). Stressing the least grammatically salient part of a word is unnatural. imagine if in english we said "THE crew OF four H...
- Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:59 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4955
- Views: 2354891
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Did Proto Norse keep the strong initial stres of Proto Germanic? AFAIK, yes. Was it the reason behind phonological changes between Proto Norse and Old Norse? What is the difference between strong initial stress and regular initial stress? Is it just that with a 'strong' stress, the stressed syllabl...
- Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:37 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4955
- Views: 2354891
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
How is pitch accent indicated in IPA? IIRC, for Swedish people use either acute/grave accent on the stressed syllable, or they precede the word with 1 / 2 . For Japanese people often use the downstep symbol after the accented syllable. There are many alternative ways. For Swedish I have also seen t...
- Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:42 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Understanding perfective aspect
- Replies: 64
- Views: 49707
Re: Understanding perfective aspect
The idea that some types of scenarios are prototypically used with the perfective or imperfective, based on their actionality, is of course not incompatible with the idea that the perfective and imperfective have some sort of prototypical semantics that's not related to the actionality of the scenar...
- Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:55 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1507
- Views: 504660
Re: English questions
Does anyone else here pronounce initial /kw ɡw/ in English as [kʷʰ ɡʷ~kʷ], i.e. not as two distinct segments but as a single labialized consonant? I'm pretty sure my /kw/ is phonetically [kʷʰ] — it's articulated very quickly, like two sounds superposed on top of each-other, or with only a very brie...
- Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:03 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Understanding perfective aspect
- Replies: 64
- Views: 49707
Re: Understanding perfective aspect
This thread is, or was originally, about understanding perfective aspect, so I was hoping that I might be able to contribute something on this subject. However, I don't think it's possible to understand aspect without understanding actionality, so I'm going to start with this subject. Something abou...
- Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:28 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Understanding perfective aspect
- Replies: 64
- Views: 49707
Re: Understanding perfective aspect
You and others have given examples where the exact same action is described as telic or atelic, which suggests at the least that telicity involves the speaker taking a viewpoint. This can easily be conditioned by the language involved. To put it succinctly: If you ask whether or not the sentence &q...