Zompist Bboard Again

Apparently anglophones pronounce "Goethe" with a rhotacized vowel, sometimes two. Why? Because to many rhotic Anglophones, Standard German /œ øː/ sound something like their native /ɝ/ or /ɚ/. However, here in southeastern Wisconsin the traditional pronunciation of StG /œ øː/ in names is /...

Zju wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:04 pm Is there a dialect in which ore oar or awe are all pronounced the same?

I presume any NORTH-FORCE-merged non-rhotic variety? And I'm not certain, but shouldn't ore and oar both be FORCE words anyways?

Some people here have restored /ju/, or shall I say, [i̯ʉ] or even [i̯y] in words like new and stupid through fronting and breaking of /u/ after a coronal. This would then presumably include also words like too , do , noose ? Fronting of /u/ occurs after all coronals, and breaking, with or without ...

How does this relate to the situation in NAE, which unlike English English does not appear to have undergone processes you mention? Yet at the same time almost all the <h> words here have /h/ and take a not an , aside from herb and sometimes homage (and I don't mean just the Frenchy loan-pronunciati...

I was thinking yesterday about my pronunciation of Birne , which in Standard German is something like [bɪɐ̯nə]. Since it's weird for me to have a diphthong beginning with [ɪ] I used to raise this to [ i ] or lower it to [e]. I didn't think about what I was doing until my acting teacher in Germany g...

Some people here have restored /ju/, or shall I say, [i̯ʉ] or even [i̯y] in words like new and stupid through fronting and breaking of /u/ after a coronal.

I used to pronounce velar as [ˈvɜːɰʁ̩(ː)].

fracas : [ˈfʁʷɛkɘs] isle : [a(ː)ɯ̯], carefully [ˈaːjɯ(ː)] vile : [va(ː)ɯ̯], carefully [ˈvaːjɯ(ː)] vial : [va(ː)ɯ̯], carefully [ˈvaːjɯ(ː)] I'll : [a(ː)ɤ̯] mile : [ma(ː)ɤ̯], carefully [ma(ː)ɯ̯] we'll : [wʊ(ː)], carefully [wi(ː)ɯ̯] (I should note that the [a] in [a(ː)ɯ̯] and [ˈaːjɯ(ː)] is quite fronte...

bulletin: [ˈpʊːɰɘˌtʰɘ̃(ː)(n)]~[ˈpʊːwɘˌtʰɘ̃(ː)(n)]
hall: [hɒ(ː)o̯]

* the northern Mid-Atlantic split isn't present in MD, but [æj eə] contrast before /nk ng/; so either /eə/ is marginally phonemic, /æj/ is marginally phonemic, or /nk ng/ contrast with /ŋk ŋ(g)/. What are some examples showing the contrast? I presume that normally TRAP and BATH are [eə] before /n/ ...

nightingale: [ˈnəe̯ʔŋ̍ːˌɡe(ː)ɯ̯]

pampas: [ˈpʰãpəs]
pompous: [ˈpʰãpəs]
pampers: [ˈpʰɛ̃pʁ̩ːs], before vowels or semivowels [ˈpʰɛ̃pʁ̩ːz]

For me they are quite distinct, as warm [wɔ̃(ː)ʁ̃ʷm] and worm [wʁ̩̃ʷ(ː)m].

I am really happy with the progress of Attoforth . I just got exception handling and thread-local variables working and have been reworking a good amount of functionality to move things out of the core runtime and into the Forth library. I had already gotten a lot of Readline-like functionality work...

The key question is that borrowed or coined words by default have both transitive and intransitive usages in a consistent fashion; if yes, then this is zero derivation, if no, then there is a closed set of ambitransitive words.

[pʌs]

I normally stress the second syllable of TV.

dhok wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:19 am ['ɪ̃nɨˌnɛʔ] internet

(careful speech: ['ɪ̃ntəˌnɛt̚ʔ])

I didn't know you were non-rhotic - and this isn't one of those cases where one rhotic is dropped because there's another rhotic in the same word.

[ˈɘ̃ʁ̩̃ˌnɜʔ], or when speaking somewhat carefullly, [ˈɘ̃ɾ̃ʁ̩̃ˌnɜʔ]

I've never heard of that usage either. If I was talking about people from Phoenix, I would say "people from Phoenix" "Phoenixers" is what occurs to me. (Other cities I would use -er with include New York, Newark, Pittsburgh, Oakland, and Cleveland. Overall -an is common enough I...