Search found 6255 matches
- Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:07 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4749
- Views: 2162676
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
To me it's not just a syllabification thing but a stress thing; /t/ at the beginning of onsets of stressed syllables are aspirated, not glottalized or flapped. I have: retire : [ʁʷəˈtʰə(ː)e̯ʁ]~[ˌʁʷiˈtʰə(ː)e̯ʁ] autism : [ˈɒˌtʰɘːzm̩(ː)] retard : [ʁʷəˈtʰɑːʁt]~[ˌʁʷiˈtʰɑːʁt] (verb), [ˈʁʷiˌtʰɑːʁt] (noun) ...
- Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:10 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Globalisation and language change
- Replies: 6
- Views: 7123
Re: Globalisation and language change
If that model is correct, expect everybody to start speaking a common dialect of English, with pre-globalization varieties of English disappearing almost without a trace. However, with English, it seems that there are two processes taking place - a loss of local dialects, but simultaneously an emer...
- Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:20 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20870
Re: General American and actors
It definitely doesn't sound like the gutteral rhotics of Europe. It probably is more postvelar rather than uvular proper, it is an approximant rather than a fricative or trill, and when initial or at the start of a stressed syllable it is noticeably labialized (and it is probably labialized in othe...
- Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:04 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20870
Re: General American and actors
I have gotten to the point that I can make myself do a plain alveolar or postalveolar /r/, with or without labialization, as opposed to a uvular or coarticulated postalveolar-uvular /r/ with or without labialization, and it sounds almost the same as my usual /r/, but the articulation is completely u...
- Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:03 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20870
Re: General American and actors
Getting the vowels wrong can even affect perception of the consonants . I think I've posted before about not being able to understand perceiving a German friend's final consonants as devoiced when, on closer listening, they clearly weren't and finally determining that what gave that impression was ...
- Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:22 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang fluency thread
- Replies: 2572
- Views: 1515263
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Ék mõk yèi b'õuk brùn b'õuk ngàe wìt ni'amãeu goo chãi ga niung màe - b'õuk yõ hí sí ék hí silâe i raeiu tẽe ẽe b'âu càe bã chãi ga niung thè. 1S wonder how human find human some except ACT-date far at_time PROX.S CLASS EGO / human every REL know 1S REL marry and child new DAT many CLASS at_time PR...
- Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:58 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Happy things thread!
- Replies: 1225
- Views: 734463
Re: Happy things thread!
I also am so glad I don't have to constantly reload anymore.bbbosborne wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:01 am i don't have to keep my left hand primed to ctrl+r so much anymore
- Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:02 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20870
Re: General American and actors
I should say that the things that interfere the most with my understanding of non-native speakers' speech is lack of expected aspiration, lack of proper vowel length allophony, and lack of preglottalization, with interfere with differentiation of fortis obstruents from lenis obstruents. Not getting ...
- Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:56 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20870
Re: General American and actors
(It'd be fairly useless anyway. I think English learners should really concentrate their efforts on the vowels; it's the hardest part, and also the most liable to produce misunderstandings. In my experience English speakers have no trouble whatsoever with uvular r's. Getting focus or beach wrong is...
- Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:31 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20870
Re: General American and actors
And I bothered practicing retroflex r when I could've pretended I was from Wisconsin all along! I don't think it's velar, it sounds like something like [ˈsɔːʁʷi]. Do not assume that how I speak is universal for people from Wisconsin. Also note that if you do try to speak like me, you'll have to lea...
- Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:02 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20870
- Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:35 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20870
Re: General American and actors
I should note that the dialect here in southeastern Wisconsin has [ˈsɔːʁi(ː)] for sorry , even though it is traditionally a Canadian English pronunciation (uvular rhotic aside) rather than an American English one. Where can I listen to a sound file of this uvular rhotic pronunciation? I don't doubt...
- Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:33 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang fluency thread
- Replies: 2572
- Views: 1515263
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Ék díu kiukap màe ôm lae phik cha ihinaam kló lae ék i ab'ãei ahóung hi'ék cha dagràu.
1S PST.IPFV lucky EGO because COMP matter PST.PFV RES-calm after COMP 1S and partner past POSS.AL.1S PST.PFV RECIP-split.
I was lucky that things calmed down after me and my ex split.
1S PST.IPFV lucky EGO because COMP matter PST.PFV RES-calm after COMP 1S and partner past POSS.AL.1S PST.PFV RECIP-split.
I was lucky that things calmed down after me and my ex split.
- Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:38 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20870
Re: General American and actors
I should note that the dialect here in southeastern Wisconsin has [ˈsɔːʁi(ː)] for sorry, even though it is traditionally a Canadian English pronunciation (uvular rhotic aside) rather than an American English one.
- Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:12 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20870
Re: General American and actors
The matter with GA is that most NAE varieties have features in common with it, but most varieties have differences as well. Probably the closest NAE variety to GA is Western American English, whose primary differences are the cot-caught merger and fronting of /uː/. That said, though, some subvarieti...
- Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:11 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4749
- Views: 2162676
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Pronouncing final /i/ as [e] is primarily a singing thing in NAE, not something in normal everyday speech.
- Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:07 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Vowel reduction
- Replies: 7
- Views: 7073
Re: Vowel reduction
It took me a moment to realize where the fourth and fifth unreduced vowel qualities were; to write [i], [u], and [b] I have to put an empty [b][/b] in them.
(To me this is preferable over disabling BBCode as it won't break any quoting or intended formatting.)
(To me this is preferable over disabling BBCode as it won't break any quoting or intended formatting.)
- Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:46 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang fluency thread
- Replies: 2572
- Views: 1515263
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Ék néin mâeng ẽe niu hà màe.
1S feel bad DAT INV 2S EGO
I feel bad for you.
1S feel bad DAT INV 2S EGO
I feel bad for you.
- Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:13 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang fluency thread
- Replies: 2572
- Views: 1515263
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Ék yí díu brùn thâen hí ẽe niláa ũ líu khù.
1S NEG PST.IPFV find way REL DAT ACT-do POSS.3S DIST.S CLASS
I have not found a way to do that yet.
1S NEG PST.IPFV find way REL DAT ACT-do POSS.3S DIST.S CLASS
I have not found a way to do that yet.
- Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:35 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang fluency thread
- Replies: 2572
- Views: 1515263
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Alà ga ẽe b'âu sudanyẽu goo khúum hí ẽe niu ék sí.
problem PROX.S DAT also INST-RECIP-talk far move REL DAT INV 1S DIR
My cell phone also has this problem.
problem PROX.S DAT also INST-RECIP-talk far move REL DAT INV 1S DIR
My cell phone also has this problem.