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- Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:01 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Split-Ergativity in Proto-Yonut: How realistic is this alignment?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 6612
Re: Split-Ergativity in Proto-Yonut: How realistic is this alignment?
1st person with 2nd person animates. What do you mean exactly? spreading out the agentivity hierarchy: 1st person animate 1st person inanimate 2nd person animate <--- the split is here 2nd person inanimate etc... so the entire 1st person and 2nd person animates get nom/acc alignment Umm typically 1...
- Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:28 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang fluency thread
- Replies: 2606
- Views: 1521885
Re: Conlang fluency thread
Nih šu c'aknəyówə go.
also NEG agree-PFV-A:1S-P:3SM EGO
I also don't agree.
also NEG agree-PFV-A:1S-P:3SM EGO
I also don't agree.
- Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:51 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4966850
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
I have (diachronically l-vocalized):
balk: [pɒʔk]
folk: [foʔk]
but (synchronically l-vocalized):
almond: [ˈɒ̃ːõ̯mɘ̃ːn(t)]
balk: [pɒʔk]
folk: [foʔk]
but (synchronically l-vocalized):
almond: [ˈɒ̃ːõ̯mɘ̃ːn(t)]
- Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:00 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4966850
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
I also have /ˈsælmən/ for the author (never heard of the actor) and /ˈsæmən/ for the fish.
- Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:14 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4966850
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
dolphin: [ˈtɒo̯fn̩(ː)]~[ˈtɒo̯fɘ̃(ː)(n)]
- Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:37 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Choice of contractions in English
- Replies: 17
- Views: 11859
Re: Choice of contractions in English
In my dialect it is normal to use -n't whenever possible except for with am, must, shall, or ought, unless negation is being specifically emphasized or a higher register is being used.
- Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:20 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 841583
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
not sure if this belongs in a separative thread, but: how do stress rules change over time? Take for instance a language with antepenultimate stress. Then consider that some final vowels are lost. As a result one gets a language where stress can be either antepenultimate or penultimate. Another cas...
- Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:43 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 572
- Views: 671599
Re: Innovative Usage Thread
Does anyone else have /wʌnt/ for went ? I think this might be related to my pin - pen merger, but it's hard to say because I can't think of any other words where I have /ɛ/ > [ʌ]. What about "twenty"? [twʌɾ̃i] ~ [tʃwʌɾ̃i] seems fairly common. In the dialect here it is normal to have [ˈtʲʰ...
- Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:39 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4966850
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
I should say that /st/ > [s] seems to be highly lexicalized (and limited to very common words), in that it is actually /st/ > /s/, i.e. the change is frozen into the underlying form. Words that are not very common tend more IMD to have [sʲː] rather than [s] for final /st/.
- Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:33 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4966850
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
how do you pronounce plural words that end in /sts/? it's one of the most uncomfortable clusters ever, and i've heard people who flat out don't even say the /ts/. I once had a conversation with a couple of roofers from Chicago who had reanalysed joist to joice in their speech, presumably via a plur...
- Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:32 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4966850
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
penetrative : [ˈpʰɜ̃ː(n)ɘˌtʃʰɻ͡ʁeɾɘːf] Joan : [tʃõ(ː)(n)] vase : [ves] phased : [feːsʲtʲ] I commonly reduce /sts/ to [sʲː] or [sː] (which depends upon whether I really analyze it as /sts/ or /ss/, because final /st/ (but not /zd/ despite that I pronounce it as [sʲtʲ]) regularly becomes [s] IMD (whe...
- Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:10 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1782
- Views: 4966850
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
[kʰn̩ˈtʰɘ̃ː(n)juːwɘs]
- Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:00 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: ZBB Census 2018
- Replies: 89
- Views: 130712
Re: ZBB Census 2018
Basics Username: Travis B. Name: Travis B. Other nicknames: I am referred to as Trav for short Birthplace: Wauwatosa, WI Place of residence: Oconomowoc, WI Any particular reason you live there now? Moved there because I am living with my parents and they moved there. Occupation: Programmer Pets: No...
- Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:48 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4753
- Views: 2214847
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I wonder how common unstressed intervocalic /t d n nt nd/ as well as /b v ð/ elision are, because you'd think that they are highly non-standard, yet I practically never encounter native English-speakers here who have a problem with them (as opposed to non-native English-speakers, who are readily con...
- Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:07 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4753
- Views: 2214847
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
To me it's not just a syllabification thing but a stress thing; /t/ at the beginning of onsets of stressed syllables are aspirated, not glottalized or flapped. I have: retire : [ʁʷəˈtʰə(ː)e̯ʁ]~[ˌʁʷiˈtʰə(ː)e̯ʁ] autism : [ˈɒˌtʰɘːzm̩(ː)] retard : [ʁʷəˈtʰɑːʁt]~[ˌʁʷiˈtʰɑːʁt] (verb), [ˈʁʷiˌtʰɑːʁt] (noun) ...
- Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:10 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Globalisation and language change
- Replies: 6
- Views: 7142
Re: Globalisation and language change
If that model is correct, expect everybody to start speaking a common dialect of English, with pre-globalization varieties of English disappearing almost without a trace. However, with English, it seems that there are two processes taking place - a loss of local dialects, but simultaneously an emer...
- Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:20 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20910
Re: General American and actors
It definitely doesn't sound like the gutteral rhotics of Europe. It probably is more postvelar rather than uvular proper, it is an approximant rather than a fricative or trill, and when initial or at the start of a stressed syllable it is noticeably labialized (and it is probably labialized in othe...
- Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:04 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20910
Re: General American and actors
I have gotten to the point that I can make myself do a plain alveolar or postalveolar /r/, with or without labialization, as opposed to a uvular or coarticulated postalveolar-uvular /r/ with or without labialization, and it sounds almost the same as my usual /r/, but the articulation is completely u...
- Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:03 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: General American and actors
- Replies: 27
- Views: 20910
Re: General American and actors
Getting the vowels wrong can even affect perception of the consonants . I think I've posted before about not being able to understand perceiving a German friend's final consonants as devoiced when, on closer listening, they clearly weren't and finally determining that what gave that impression was ...
- Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:22 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang fluency thread
- Replies: 2606
- Views: 1521885
Re: Conlang fluency thread
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