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by Salmoneus
Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:35 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3268
Views: 2995350

Re: Conlang Random Thread

To be fair, Sakha made that mistake first, by clearly stealing its name from Saka, a language frequently discussed by linguists...
by Salmoneus
Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:51 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Some Rawàng Ata
Replies: 19
Views: 14586

Re: Some Rawàng Ata

It turns out the disynthetic isn't that hard to figure out after a good night's sleep. What's a djadjang , by the way? A predator. I think it's an egg-laying mammal analogous to a jackal or coyote, or large fox - perhaps a thylacine might be the nearest Earth analogy? They're common in the forest -...
by Salmoneus
Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:33 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Some Rawàng Ata
Replies: 19
Views: 14586

Re: Some Rawàng Ata

Anyway, if anyone's still interested, second chunk up here Still very interested :) I'll need some time to figure out the disynthetic I think. One thing I'm not sure about is valence... Does that mean you can't have an ergative and, say, a lative, or an ergative and an indirect object? In other wor...
by Salmoneus
Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:25 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1875
Views: 4992151

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Flaubertian Goethean Wagnerian Wittgensteinian /floUbE:ti@n/ /g3:ti@n/ (with possible additional rounding) /vAgnE:ri@n/ (but -i:ri@n is an alternative, and the more mainstream/traditional pronounciation) /vItgnStaIni@n/ But only the last two are words I'd use on a regular basis. With stress on the ...
by Salmoneus
Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:00 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1875
Views: 4992151

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

Linguoboy wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:37 am Flaubertian
Goethean
Wagnerian
Wittgensteinian
/floUbE:ti@n/
/g3:ti@n/ (with possible additional rounding)
/vAgnE:ri@n/ (but -i:ri@n is an alternative, and the more mainstream/traditional pronounciation)
/vItgnStaIni@n/

But only the last two are words I'd use on a regular basis.
by Salmoneus
Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:51 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1875
Views: 4992151

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

I could have sworn I'd heard that he himself says /nu:nz/ (or /nju:nz/). But wikipedia says otherwise, and appears to be correct. I'm not sure Wikipedia is entirely correct, though - they have /E/ for the second vowel, but hearing him say it, I can only hear schwa. It doesn't help that the guide he ...
by Salmoneus
Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:54 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Tiffany problems
Replies: 167
Views: 186016

Re: Tiffany problems

Speaking of Italian (-ish) pop songs, one I'm always a little temporally confused by is ''O sole mio'. On the one hand, if you think of it as "Just one more cornetto" or the song ice cream vans play (I'm assuming the former predates the latter, but I'm not certain...), it seems quite moder...
by Salmoneus
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:35 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1875
Views: 4992151

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

In the question "what time is it?" in isolation, generally /IzIt/. (the /t/ can be a glottal stop, depending on register, but is notably less likely to be so than many other final /t/s - I think the /I/ helps preserve it?) However, in questions like "what time is it coming?", whe...
by Salmoneus
Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:03 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Confusing headlines
Replies: 725
Views: 577541

Re: Confusing headlines

Moffat breaks silence on axe
by Salmoneus
Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:27 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1875
Views: 4992151

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

I'm surprised by so many people retaining the voiced plurals - it comes across as very old-fashioned and upper-class to me. I have devoicing in all of them except 'clothes'. Although, come to think of it, in more idiomatic uses where the link to the singular has been broken, I can have the voiced ve...
by Salmoneus
Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:56 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: So what's a sapient species anyway?
Replies: 26
Views: 18460

Re: So what's a sapient species anyway?

Would anyone here consider other animals on Earth to be sapient? Dogs are very humanlike in emotion if not in intelligence. Meanwhile some dolphin species might actually outrank us in intelligence. Elephants are known for emotions as well, and elephants seem to understand that humans are unlike all...
by Salmoneus
Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:10 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Some Rawàng Ata
Replies: 19
Views: 14586

Re: Some Rawàng Ata

Very interesting, it does escalate somewhat when we hit the disynthetic! Why the choice of term 'disynthetic' by the way? I'm not entirely sure. In a literal sense, it is di-synthetic, in that it takes two sets of agreement affixes. But I seem to remember reading something that used the term or a r...
by Salmoneus
Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:26 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Random Conlang Grammar Ideas Thread
Replies: 59
Views: 61072

Re: Random Conlang Grammar Ideas Thread

ont - annum. Final /nn/ > /nd/ > /nt/. Although thanks, I didn't know about 'annata'! I think that should yield "onth", although it might be "ont" as I've not been 100% consistent... Oh, and /a/ > /o/ is a result of nasalisation. And it's in the singular because.... the language...
by Salmoneus
Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Some Rawàng Ata
Replies: 19
Views: 14586

Re: Some Rawàng Ata

Anyway, if anyone's still interested, second chunk up here
by Salmoneus
Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:15 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Random Conlang Grammar Ideas Thread
Replies: 59
Views: 61072

Re: Random Conlang Grammar Ideas Thread

Ok, I had guessed prossem and aprobencker besides kalt . But now I'd like etymologies for the rest - lauf is from lumen , ont < annata , multh < mult- , and krattur < quattuor (with an intrusive /r/?), but the other words? And there's clearly lenition and diphthongisation going on. Well, I didn't g...
by Salmoneus
Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:47 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Random Conlang Grammar Ideas Thread
Replies: 59
Views: 61072

Re: Random Conlang Grammar Ideas Thread

It wasn't a message, it was just playing with the idea you suggested,providing a very un-Romantic Romance language.

"The nearest hot star is four light-years from here! To reach this star would require many thousands of years!"
by Salmoneus
Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:15 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Random Conlang Grammar Ideas Thread
Replies: 59
Views: 61072

Re: Random Conlang Grammar Ideas Thread

A romlang with French-style deletion of word-final vowels, with subsequent unvoicing of any voiced consonant stranded at the end of the word, so that Latin calidus 'hot' ends up as... kalt . S'prossem kalt Zakt djaft krattur Lauf-ont d'ecker! Aprobencker schtee Zakt, chipper multh Maketch d'Ontur!
by Salmoneus
Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:09 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Some Rawàng Ata
Replies: 19
Views: 14586

Re: Some Rawàng Ata

I'm not sure I'm fully awake yet, but here are some reactions. So what stands out is that you've got something akin to a grammatical voice one of whose purposes is to let the speaker encode a variety of distinctions related to intimacy, respect, deference, register, and so on; and to encode it via ...
by Salmoneus
Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:25 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Some Rawàng Ata
Replies: 19
Views: 14586

Re: Some Rawàng Ata

More extensive comments: It occurs only when the verb is in the transitive species, when the subject is female (i.e. of the damùn, yanha or maòkosònga) and Là (etc), and when the direct object is male (i.e. of the yojo or òro) and Là (etc) : I don't get the part in bold. Cultural issue. As quinterb...
by Salmoneus
Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Happy things thread!
Replies: 1301
Views: 768552

Re: Happy things thread!

And I know it's commonly used in British baked goods under the name of treacle. Hold up hold up hold up. Treacle is just molasses?? My younger self reading old British books has had her mind blown. Here I thought it was some exotic treat and it's just molasses?? (YABAFT [Yet Another British vs. Ame...