Zompist Bboard Again

OK, now I understand. Are you sure it's a good idea to have that much relativization going on in an IAL?

bradrn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:27 amNot sure I understand this suggestion… could you give an example? I’m already making those consonants syllabic by deleting the proceeding vowel (rule #5).

I mean like:
V → ∅ / V[+stressed] CC _C[+sonorant]

Why is there two "be.at" in the last example?

That's the one big difference between our IALs. Yours uses relative clauses for everything, and everything is a verb. ^_^;

Maybe I should translate some things to see how it feels to have which order of genitive and noun.

Well, first of all, what are your syllabic consonants? Make a sound change #6 that deletes vowels before those consonants that can become syllabic.

Why should t{mlN be banned when t{jlN is allowed?

surprisingly quickly, I've gotten my newest lang Bau Danyi to a point of significant maturity: 1,5 k lexicon, a decently unified feel to it, and when i pick some random conlang syntax test case, for example, I can translate it just with adding lexicon to it, i.e. I don't need any new grammar WTF?! ...

Plurals in CT operate by one of a few mechanisms. There are three typical methods, depending on the shape of the word: Metathesis , decomposition , and a pluralizing particle . I like that you've used very different kinds of morphology for this. It's so simple and natural, yet I don't think I've do...

I actually did the numbers. L1 speakers L2 speakers Gen-N 1,954,342,550 2,403,495,970 N-Gen 1,425,775,327 2,577,478,800 This includes all my focus languages, except for some that lacked data points in WALS. English is also excluded because English has both orders. One has to take the figures for num...

Hmm, I've been looking and looking on WP, but everything either belongs to one of those families it's not supposed to be, or does still have L1 speakers, or wasn't spoken anywhere near Thailand or Laos.

Is it a Tibeto-Burman language?

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:28 pm All this said, this being your language, you ought to do with it what you like, but I think w is, unfortunately, the most logical choice.

Yeah, I know. It's hard not to treat it like an artlang.

Okay, I'll keep the W.

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:39 pm Is all of this adjusted for number of speakers?

Good question. No, that's the number of individual languages. It would be impossible to calculate the number of speakers for any feature. But I'll have a look and make a guesstimation based on the big languages...

I could design new characters by hand, but making them digitally... Oh, I see. Well, that's no biggie. You could draw all the characters by hand and then scan them. Vectorizing hand drawn characters might or might not be successful, but if that doesn't work, then you could use the drawings as templ...

The labial continuant Omni-kan has a phoneme that can be realized as any of [v], [ʋ] or [w]. I had decided to spell it with <w>, though <v> is very tempting. Disadvantages of <v> When Spanish speakers and East Asians see <v>, they will likely pronounce it wrong, even if they are told to use /w/ Dis...

Aha. I didn't want to insert the relative clause in the middle of it all, like we do in English. I don’t see why that should be a problem… it’s what pretty much every other language does. Because it gets word-salady. :? Except that introduces a lot of ambiguity: what jumps in cat fight snake, it ju...

Hmm, if I'm reading WALS correctly, it's called a correlative clause if the relative clause contains something to mark it as such, but a paratactic relative clause if it doesn't.

I suspect the reason everyone was misinterpreting these was because the relative clauses are for the most part not adjacent to the head noun: Aha. I didn't want to insert the relative clause in the middle of it all, like we do in English. I suspect the most minimalistic way to fix this would be to ...

I would probably give up the first one for lost after a bit, but then decide the third, after thinking about it, meant "I see a snake and cat fighting" rather than that some sort of Last Airbender-like snake cat generally tending to fight. Lol. I definitely need some way of separating the...

Aha. Well, it doesn't have to be technically difficult. You could probably just copy an existing Japanese font and then replace every glyph with a design of your own. Then you could use the existing IME to write it. But you need a good aesthetic.

Rounin Ryuuji wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:35 amI actually have ideas for actual characterforms the speakers would presumably use, but I haven't really any way of encoding them

What do you mean by encoding? Are you talking about making a font?