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Is Indonesian language pronounciation included? I used to pronounce manga as [man.ga]. It turns out that it's pronounced [maŋ.ɡa], the same as mangga.

- Unreleased plosives > glottal stop or gemination of a following consonant - ɑʕ > a - s > ʃ / _t; t > 0 / ʃ_# - ə > 0 where phonotactics allow; ə > a otherwise - ɾ > r / _# - syllabic resonants eject ɨ - i ij ej e ai > ɨ i i i e - ow > u - ji > je [aɾegar xudjir edisleʔ en ur sfɨmarifsfeʒns | duwe...

Pedant wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:19 pm

mèþru wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:40 pm I think we can milk the current text longer but no one's posting.
Also, can we make this an all language thread?

Which language did you have in mind?

How about Proto Indo European? Scratch that. No easily accessible book (that is free) for reference.

Dear creator of Japanese, what the heck's going one with your vowel devoicing process? Everyone else just uses it on all vowels regardless of quality, but you've linked it to height of all things! What on earth is it about high vowels that makes them more prone to voicelessness than other vowels I ...

Travis B. wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:06 pm I pronounce tsunami as [tʲʰsʲʉ̃ːˈnãːmi(ː)], corresponding to /tsuˈnami/, but most people in southern Wisconsin tend to have [sʲʉ̃ːˈnãːmi(ː)], corresponding to /suˈnami/.

Do you really aspirate your /t/ in this position? It's really hard for me.

The problem is in my language, agentive and patientive case is only marked in animate noun. Inanimate noun only receives adverbial marking (i.e. ranges from Instrumental, Locative, and -ly) or patientive case. So, the noun isn't even predominantly used patientively. To be fair, nouns don't receive ...

How do you pronounce tsunami? I pronounce it much closer to its native language, as [tsunami].

The problem is in my language, agentive and patientive case is only marked in animate noun. Inanimate noun only receives adverbial marking (i.e. ranges from Instrumental, Locative, and -ly) or patientive case. So, the noun isn't even predominantly used patientively. To be fair, nouns don't receive a...

In sound changes, does /w/ usually pattern as a labial or a velar? (Or can it pattern as either?) Searching for sound change involving /w/, I get that for fortition: In Lycian, /w/ > /b/after consonant In Vandalig, /wː/ > /g/ Also, according to this: http://www.linguistics.berkeley.edu/~ohala/paper...

Possibly generalised from the second person pronouns, which are closer to normal English usage. Southern American English y'all is an example for the plural, and I think Lithuanian judu shows the inclusion of a cardinal in a dual number. English you two isn't so far removed, but I wouldn't claim it...

Not bad at all, but this is rather ingenious and funny. In Bislama, the third person pronouns are: SG: em DU: tugeta TRI: trigeta PL: olgeta Even if this is actually unrealistic, it's worth it. Possibly generalised from the second person pronouns, which are closer to normal English usage. Southern ...

Compound words are a bad idea. Exception: the terminology being coined are built from parts that have exactly one meaning and interpretation (chemical nomenclature). A better idea would be to categorize and sort semantic primitives into modules and create a short root for each one. Found in a Reddi...

Is this realistic: . My language is pretty weird. The objective case for animate noun is sometimes shorter than the agentive case. Originally it's marked by suffix -i. It causes stress shift and umlaut, and most of the time it's deleted. (Except in some monosyllabic words, where it's root vowel tha...

Is this realistic: . My language is pretty weird. The patientive case for animate noun is sometimes shorter than the agentive case. Originally it's marked by suffix -i. It causes stress shift and umlaut, and most of the time it's deleted. (Except in some monosyllabic words, where it's root vowel tha...

Not bad at all, but this is rather ingenious and funny. In Bislama, the third person pronouns are:

SG: em
DU: tugeta
TRI: trigeta
PL: olgeta

Even if this is actually unrealistic, it's worth it.

Is it realistic to have a suppletion for case. For example, the agentive case and the patientive case of word monster is ská̂t and ktããm, respectively.

Not every noun have suppletion.

- auxiliary verbs ("we should do...") - passive verbs with a subclause ("we are required to do...") - active verbs with a subclause (Arabic istaTa3a 'can' which is followed by a subordinator and a subclause with a subjunctive verb) Just asking, what is the difference between the...

Is 1D L (U).INCL > 1SG.S.2SG.O and 1PL.INCL > 1.S.2.O.P(L (either/both subject and object are plural)) realistic, because I saw the Tagalog word for "I ... you" is "kita", which means 1PL.INCL in Indonesian. What do these abbreviations mean? Thanks, it turns out I misspelled som...

Vijay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:43 pm In other words, he's asking whether it's realistic for 'you and me' to change in meaning to 'I _____ you' and for 'you + me + zero or more other people' to change to 'I (we?) _____ you'.

I actually mean I/we ____ you, with any possible plural marking except I ___ you(SG)

Is 1DU.INCL > 1SG.S.2SG.O and 1PL.INCL > 1.S.2.O.PL (either/both the subject and the object are plural) realistic, because I saw the Tagalog word for "I ... you" is "kita", which means 1PL.INCL in Indonesian.