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by Xwtek
Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:57 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3069
Views: 2940923

Re: Conlang Random Thread

I wouldn't call that a passive. This is what a direct-inverse language is, so the verb would be said to be in inverse voice when it has an inanimate subject. While it corresponds to direct-inverse system in one of its descendants, it's not yet a direct-inverse now, because: The original subject is ...
by Xwtek
Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:10 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3069
Views: 2940923

Re: Conlang Random Thread

How about this. a language has 4 cases: Direct, Genitive, Locative, and Instrumental. There is also two genders, Animate and Inanimate. All The case assignment is: In an intransitive sentence, this is unambiguous. Direct case is used for the only argument. In a transitive sentence, the case assignme...
by Xwtek
Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:36 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3069
Views: 2940923

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Do you think it's reasonable to turn dative to accussative if the language originally have no accussative?
by Xwtek
Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:45 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Relative clauses
Replies: 14
Views: 8970

Re: Relative clauses

I'm not quite sure what the question is. I discuss this quite a bit in my syntax book; you can also look at various strategies in WALS: https://wals.info/chapter/122 https://wals.info/chapter/123 For a conlang, you probably want to worry about a few things: * what exactly do you do to mark relativi...
by Xwtek
Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:49 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 513715

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Salmoneus wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:37 am Philippine, Formosan and other northern Austronesian languages: why all these filthy Conlang Trigger Systems? That's not how real Austronesian Alignment works! Get educated!
What?
by Xwtek
Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:19 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Yet another two questions about trigger systems
Replies: 8
Views: 7276

Re: Yet another two questions about trigger systems

Yet another question: Is oblique trigger is identical to applicative + Indonesian style passive voice?
by Xwtek
Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:05 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3069
Views: 2940923

Re: Conlang Random Thread

The man whom Maria kill kattu na Maria a a-ro-gapput-a Man REL Maria 3SG.DIR 3SG>3SG-PRF-kill-DIR.SG Later, since akko refers to katta, it becomes more proximate than Maria. katta na a Maria a-ro-gappud-e Man REL 3SG.DIR Maria 3SG>3SG-gappud-INV.SG I don't quite follow this - I can't see akko in an...
by Xwtek
Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3069
Views: 2940923

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Is it reasonable that the noun that is relativized is more proximate than all other arguments except for 1st person and 2nd person? My idea is to make a diachronic for a relative pronoun. Initially, there is relativizer na. The relativizer na can be used standalone, or with a resumptive pronoun. For...
by Xwtek
Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:59 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 513715

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

A fruit in a conworld can be named after a race, that is also a name of its language Aha. But I think this person called their ethnicity "Han". The guy who did Korean also called their ethnicity Han. You two need to sort this out. :roll: That's called exonym. It's based on malay word ment...
by Xwtek
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:38 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Yet another two questions about trigger systems
Replies: 8
Views: 7276

Re: Yet another two questions about trigger systems

2. Unless your language is like English, I don't think so.
by Xwtek
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 513715

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Mandarin? The trend of naming conlangs after fruit and whatever is still going? Anyhow, please don't make up your own phonetic characters (ʅ, ʯ, etc.), you can use IPA with its diacritics. I think it's the other way around. What? The name? A fruit was not named after a conlang, come on! A fruit in ...
by Xwtek
Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:05 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3069
Views: 2940923

Re: Conlang Random Thread

  1. What is difference of obviative system and topic system?
  2. How does a language acquire gerund?
by Xwtek
Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:40 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3069
Views: 2940923

Re: Conlang Random Thread

¿What on earth would you call a system like this: Each time a noun is introduced into a sentence the last vowel is assigned a final tone (lexically all nouns have an atonic [not neutral!] final vowel, including proper nouns), either: /˧ ˥ ˩ ˥˩/ which equate to the 'identifiers' {α β γ δ}. There 24 ...
by Xwtek
Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:14 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology
Replies: 40
Views: 22676

Re: Apposition with nouns such as 'agent', 'patient' etc could replace case morphology

I can't prove it, but language with subject marking usually marks it from deriving animate noun from inanimate noun.
by Xwtek
Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:48 am
Forum: Almea
Topic: Some Verdurian typos
Replies: 98
Views: 120996

Re: Some Verdurian typos

Soa ďeletá e lyö imbušäma. Mira sen ilat rälne.
the-f sauce be-3s very tasty-f / mother I-dat she-acc cook-past-3s
The sauce is very tasty. My mother cooked it.
Also, why you need "ilat". Can't you use "Mira sen rälne"?
by Xwtek
Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:43 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Non-verby uses of participle morphology
Replies: 8
Views: 5004

Re: Non-verby uses of participle morphology

Indonesian is pretty much big on reusing the same affixes for different purposes. Sometimes, an affix has completely different meaning depending on the resulting word class of the word Informal Indonesian also uses ke--an circumfix for both excessive and stative verbal noun. (kebesaran = too big/big...
by Xwtek
Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3069
Views: 2940923

Re: Conlang Random Thread

I doubt there's any languages where there's literally no identifiable patterns to plural formation at all. This is the problem - it is almost completely random. There are some vague, unhelpful patterns - for instance, words ending in geminates add a vowel to form the plural (but which vowel?), and ...
by Xwtek
Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 513715

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Yeah, the mega-thread probably went something like this: Sam: Here's the final map, Lenny: Is that a penis? Sam: It's a peninsula. OK, everybody pick a location and a family. Remember, we want it to be diverse and naturalistic . Gerald: Top of this area. Indo-European. Ross: I'll take the area to t...
by Xwtek
Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 513715

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Qwynegold wrote: Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:49 pm Mandarin? The trend of naming conlangs after fruit and whatever is still going? Anyhow, please don't make up your own phonetic characters (ʅ, ʯ, etc.), you can use IPA with its diacritics.
I think it's the other way around.
by Xwtek
Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:51 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 513715

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Sam: Here's the final map, Lenny: Is that a penis? Sam: It's a peninsula. OK, everybody pick a location and a family. Remember, we want it to be diverse and naturalistic . Gerald: Top of this area. Indo-European. Ross: I'll take the area to the east. Indo-European. Greta: I'll take this little peni...