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- Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:17 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Shortest words for basic concepts
- Replies: 67
- Views: 55579
Re: Shortest words for basic concepts
Makassarese: u' (hair) Indonesia ironically has shorter word for more advanced concepts than basic concepts, barring grammatical words: am : Not limited to a certain person or race; universal. Usually used as "gereja am" which means a church that is universal regardless of denomination and...
- Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:01 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
- Replies: 35
- Views: 13822
Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
Or more simply, ignoring what the herbivore is saying and just eat it.
- Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:26 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Phonotactics Help
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4615
Re: Phonotactics Help
The lack of nasal phonemes is very unusual. In real world, it only occurs in Puget Sound. Try adding nasal vowel or nasal consonant Try splitting a cluster into 3 position. (Initial, Medial, and Final). While /pr/ is good word initially, it's bad at final cluster. Example (This is not western, thoug...
- Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:49 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 855707
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
After an unfortunately long period of being far too busy/tired to get any conlanging done, I finally have time again, but seem to be stuck with a case of "conlanger's block". I'm looking to derive more complex consonant clusters in a daughter language of Proto-Yonutian, whose syllables ar...
- Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:44 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
- Replies: 584
- Views: 519130
Re: If natlangs were conlangs
Speaking of horrible phonologies, Hixkaryana has the weirdest five vowel system I've ever seen: /æ e ɔ ɯ u/. I get it, you want to be special, but really? This and your language is OVS? You know there's more to conlanging than being weird, right? Actually, having OVS (or rigid SOV) typical of Carib...
- Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:26 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3231
- Views: 2989614
Re: Conlang Random Thread
That doesn't discount the Athabskan evidence though. That polysynthesis had to come from somewhere, and the virtual absence of suffixes, and especially person-marking suffixes, points to a historic SOV word order which was later grammaticalised into this massive verb complex. There's nothing about ...
- Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:16 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
- Replies: 584
- Views: 519130
Re: If natlangs were conlangs
Southern Tepehuan, unlike Nahuatl, (they're from the same family), has a horrible phonology. Really, you have /ɨ u o ʌ a/ as the non front vowel, but only /i/ as the front vowel? Also, what arbitrary consonant is /ɣ͡ʎ/?
- Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:26 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 855707
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
How likely is unconditional shift from /s s̻ z/ > /r/(/s̻/ being the fortis /s/).
- Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:16 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 855707
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
From syllable final /Vs Vh Vw Vj Vʔ Vn Vns Vnʔ Vwʔ Vjʔ/, how can I get rhotacized vowel? It doesn't have to affect all of them, as long as some of them results in rhotacization.
- Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:11 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
- Replies: 584
- Views: 519130
Re: If natlangs were conlangs
Nahuatl is perhaps one of the best conlang in the Earth. Unfortunately, it's not spotless. Can you explain why 1PL and 2SG subject and pronoun prefixes are identical? Also, can you explain why you need to decline noun based on "case" (which is more about whether the noun is possessed or no...
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:12 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3231
- Views: 2989614
Re: Conlang Random Thread
Can a SOV language becomes prefixal polysynthetic language also with SOV word order? From what I understand, Navajo is basically SOV (although more precisely the word order follows animacy) and very heavily prefixing. No, I mean a language moves from nonpolysynthetic to polysynthetic. But the word ...
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:35 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Conlang Random Thread
- Replies: 3231
- Views: 2989614
Re: Conlang Random Thread
Can a SOV language becomes prefixal polysynthetic language also with SOV word order?
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:20 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
- Replies: 584
- Views: 519130
Re: If natlangs were conlangs
I'm no huge fan of irregular verbs being all over the place--I'm looking at you, French--but it seems like there ought to be more than two. Scattering a few irregular forms through a handful of other verbs just...doesn't seem realistic. Uh, actually, Japanese's irregular forms is actually realistic...
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:48 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 855707
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:18 am
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: ZBB Census 2018
- Replies: 89
- Views: 132599
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:58 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
- Replies: 584
- Views: 519130
Re: If natlangs were conlangs
Are you sure that there is actually 7 degrees of distance and not 3 degrees, but there is variant demonstratives that have the same degrees of distance and visibility? I'm quite certain. My Field Methods class in university did Malagasy, and one of my classmates focused on deixis (I mostly focused ...
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:49 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 855707
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Also, would a phonoloɡy of m n ɲ ŋ p t t͡s t͡ʃ k f s ʃ x h l ɾ w j ± mb nd ɲd͡ʒ ŋɡ Allow for some exotic consonants, i.e. labio-velars or uvulars? The language was heavily influenced by Arabic early in its history, resulting in an extdnsive uvularized series, uvulars and pharyngeals, and since then...
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:30 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
- Replies: 584
- Views: 519130
Re: If natlangs were conlangs
Malagasy. Oh, Malagasy. Seven deictic degrees of distance. Seven. Really, seven? Seven??? Who needs seven?????? WAT? :shock: Seriously. Are you sure that there is actually 7 degrees of distance and not 3 degrees, but there is variant demonstratives that have the same degrees of distance and visibil...
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:09 am
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Elections in various countries
- Replies: 1418
- Views: 658669
Re: Elections in various countries
Which is weird, because Indonesia is more corrupt Now I'm curious; can you explain how Indonesia is more corrupt? https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2017?gclid=Cj0KCQiAvqDiBRDAARIsADWh5Ted8IcWhAAlm6hHWyDuK5acKgjS6urWnUNOV4QOPToM4YYtac8R9oEaAknjEALw_wcB You can se...
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:28 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 855707
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Is it plausible for /m̻/ (fortis /m/) to shift into /p̻/ (fortis /p/)?