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by Xwtek
Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:17 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Shortest words for basic concepts
Replies: 67
Views: 55579

Re: Shortest words for basic concepts

Makassarese: u' (hair) Indonesia ironically has shorter word for more advanced concepts than basic concepts, barring grammatical words: am : Not limited to a certain person or race; universal. Usually used as "gereja am" which means a church that is universal regardless of denomination and...
by Xwtek
Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:01 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language
Replies: 35
Views: 13822

Re: Conworld idea: no clean break between language and almost-language

Pedant wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:29 am Ooh, could make it rather difficult for anyone to reasonably be a carnivore with enough thought about what they were doing...perhaps you should consider investing heavily in designing protein-heavy plants?
Or more simply, ignoring what the herbivore is saying and just eat it.
by Xwtek
Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:26 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phonotactics Help
Replies: 8
Views: 4615

Re: Phonotactics Help

The lack of nasal phonemes is very unusual. In real world, it only occurs in Puget Sound. Try adding nasal vowel or nasal consonant Try splitting a cluster into 3 position. (Initial, Medial, and Final). While /pr/ is good word initially, it's bad at final cluster. Example (This is not western, thoug...
by Xwtek
Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1370
Views: 855707

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

After an unfortunately long period of being far too busy/tired to get any conlanging done, I finally have time again, but seem to be stuck with a case of "conlanger's block". I'm looking to derive more complex consonant clusters in a daughter language of Proto-Yonutian, whose syllables ar...
by Xwtek
Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:44 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 519130

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Speaking of horrible phonologies, Hixkaryana has the weirdest five vowel system I've ever seen: /æ e ɔ ɯ u/. I get it, you want to be special, but really? This and your language is OVS? You know there's more to conlanging than being weird, right? Actually, having OVS (or rigid SOV) typical of Carib...
by Xwtek
Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:26 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3231
Views: 2989614

Re: Conlang Random Thread

That doesn't discount the Athabskan evidence though. That polysynthesis had to come from somewhere, and the virtual absence of suffixes, and especially person-marking suffixes, points to a historic SOV word order which was later grammaticalised into this massive verb complex. There's nothing about ...
by Xwtek
Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:16 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 519130

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Southern Tepehuan, unlike Nahuatl, (they're from the same family), has a horrible phonology. Really, you have /ɨ u o ʌ a/ as the non front vowel, but only /i/ as the front vowel? Also, what arbitrary consonant is /ɣ͡ʎ/?
by Xwtek
Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:26 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1370
Views: 855707

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

How likely is unconditional shift from /s s̻ z/ > /r/(/s̻/ being the fortis /s/).
by Xwtek
Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:16 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1370
Views: 855707

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

From syllable final /Vs Vh Vw Vj Vʔ Vn Vns Vnʔ Vwʔ Vjʔ/, how can I get rhotacized vowel? It doesn't have to affect all of them, as long as some of them results in rhotacization.
by Xwtek
Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:11 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 519130

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Nahuatl is perhaps one of the best conlang in the Earth. Unfortunately, it's not spotless. Can you explain why 1PL and 2SG subject and pronoun prefixes are identical? Also, can you explain why you need to decline noun based on "case" (which is more about whether the noun is possessed or no...
by Xwtek
Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:12 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3231
Views: 2989614

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Can a SOV language becomes prefixal polysynthetic language also with SOV word order? From what I understand, Navajo is basically SOV (although more precisely the word order follows animacy) and very heavily prefixing. No, I mean a language moves from nonpolysynthetic to polysynthetic. But the word ...
by Xwtek
Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:35 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3231
Views: 2989614

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Can a SOV language becomes prefixal polysynthetic language also with SOV word order?
by Xwtek
Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:20 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 519130

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

I'm no huge fan of irregular verbs being all over the place--I'm looking at you, French--but it seems like there ought to be more than two. Scattering a few irregular forms through a handful of other verbs just...doesn't seem realistic. Uh, actually, Japanese's irregular forms is actually realistic...
by Xwtek
Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:48 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1370
Views: 855707

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

mèþru wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:48 am
Akangka wrote:Is it plausible for /m̻/ (fortis /m/) to shift into /p̻/ (fortis /p/)?
Sure, but I would expect the shift to affect all nasals.
No, just all fortis nasal. The lenis nasal remains. However, fortis /n̻/ and all fortis nasals is also shifted
by Xwtek
Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:18 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: ZBB Census 2018
Replies: 89
Views: 132599

Re: ZBB Census 2018

mèþru wrote: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:59 pm me and half the board
Lucky you, in Indonesia, there is no such thing as gay right.
by Xwtek
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:58 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 519130

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Are you sure that there is actually 7 degrees of distance and not 3 degrees, but there is variant demonstratives that have the same degrees of distance and visibility? I'm quite certain. My Field Methods class in university did Malagasy, and one of my classmates focused on deixis (I mostly focused ...
by Xwtek
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:49 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1370
Views: 855707

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Also, would a phonoloɡy of m n ɲ ŋ p t t͡s t͡ʃ k f s ʃ x h l ɾ w j ± mb nd ɲd͡ʒ ŋɡ Allow for some exotic consonants, i.e. labio-velars or uvulars? The language was heavily influenced by Arabic early in its history, resulting in an extdnsive uvularized series, uvulars and pharyngeals, and since then...
by Xwtek
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:30 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 584
Views: 519130

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Malagasy. Oh, Malagasy. Seven deictic degrees of distance. Seven. Really, seven? Seven??? Who needs seven?????? WAT? :shock: Seriously. Are you sure that there is actually 7 degrees of distance and not 3 degrees, but there is variant demonstratives that have the same degrees of distance and visibil...
by Xwtek
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:09 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: Elections in various countries
Replies: 1418
Views: 658669

Re: Elections in various countries

Which is weird, because Indonesia is more corrupt Now I'm curious; can you explain how Indonesia is more corrupt? https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2017?gclid=Cj0KCQiAvqDiBRDAARIsADWh5Ted8IcWhAAlm6hHWyDuK5acKgjS6urWnUNOV4QOPToM4YYtac8R9oEaAknjEALw_wcB You can se...
by Xwtek
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:28 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1370
Views: 855707

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Is it plausible for /m̻/ (fortis /m/) to shift into /p̻/ (fortis /p/)?