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I think anteallach is saying that TRAP is generally [a] around Yorkshire, which is the same as the [a] in Spanish, so [ɑ] sounds less authentic. Oh, yeah, I just totally misread it. Whoops. Re: Pabappa's post, I've actually heard someone from New Jersey pronounce the name Mario with [æ], so I guess...

*English is complicated, because even though I can come up with words that contain some of these sequences (like hamster or angry ), I don't know how common it is for speakers to insert an epenthetic consonant in the middle, like [hæm p stɚ], [æŋ ɡ rɪ]. I don't know of such a resource, sorry...but ...

F[æ]va beans and a nice Chi[æ]nti.

anteallach wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:27 am"T[ɑː]co" sounds ridiculously pretentious to me, and as TRAP is generally [a] round here also sounds less authentic...

It has [a] in Spanish though, so why would that be less authentic?

Most Native American groups originally used body armor , which was gradually abandoned with the introduction of firearms. The early European colonists of the east coast and Southwest were meeting warriors decked out in wooden slat armor or layered leather armor and giant leather shields and everythi...

I think most or all of the quackery posts have been "sponsored" in some way by Victor Mair ( this is the one in particular I was thinking of). I don't know what the hell happened. Maybe this latest one will lead to more editorial oversight. EDIT: And reading through the comments of that ol...

cenysor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:50 am Linguistic quackery on the Language Log!

Yeah they've published some other quackery in the past year or so too (that I noticed, I'm not a regular reader anymore). It's a shame...

Those all look fine

Knit Tie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:07 pm

dhok wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:16 pm
*l > r, *r > j, *j > r and *w > j are all attested.

So ɹ → j unconditionally is plausible?

Yes

I'm beginning to think that everyone has their own pronunciation of "ugh". I'm fairly sure I pronounce it significantly differently at different times (or, I guess put another way, I have many different expressions of disgust/contempt/impatience/disappointment that could be written "...

What about the interjection of disgust "ew"? I know for me the nucleus is tends to be drawn out expressively, but plain [iu̯] is certainly a possible realization, especially in certain contexts. (Granted, that's an extra-linguistic word, which tend to have phones not present in a language'...

I've heard it a few times in contexts where I would say "thingie" or "doodad" or the like: "Hey, while you're up, grab one of those twisty guys, would you?" But it's rare, and for me highly marked. I've never heard "dude" in such a position. My experience is ...

The book actually seems to be available online via the Smithsonian:

https://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontr ... 0007.1.pdf

I have a story where a person get lost in another world. The world is rather primitive, and speaks another language. How long it takes to learn the local language? Assuming the new person is not linguist. Also in the story, it's actually not rare for a person to get lost to this world. This is a ni...

It could also just be that intervocalic lenition is extremely common. I'm wary in general of any claims about "substrate" influence to explain changes that are perfectly common and natural, which people seem to make WAY WAY too often (not just in contexts like this). If there's something q...

náʼoolkiłí wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:34 am Where on the spectrum of crackpottery/trollery is this decipherment attempt?

Don't you mean, how high on the spectrum?

Come on guys, it was peer reviewed. Peer review means it's right. Besides, he checked his work. It took him an entire two weeks, even. Theres no question about it..... the elusive Voynich manuscript has been finally really truly definitely absolutely positively deciphered, and we are among the very...

First of all I love the fact that it's in a peer-reviewed journal. I've skimmed parts of it, not gonna bother reading the whole thing, but some fun stuff has included: "Unbeknown to the scholarly community, the manuscript was written in an extinct and hitherto unrecorded language as well as usi...