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by axolotl
Thu Nov 23, 2023 11:40 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Language change in real time
Replies: 34
Views: 9263

Re: Language change in real time

Weird thing, but I seem to remember the generic exclamation of fear/pain/etc, "aaaaaahhhhh," being consistently pronounced [æ:::] when I was a kid, but being much more often [ɑ:::] now. Or at least closer to it.
by axolotl
Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:36 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Replies: 144
Views: 336686

Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)

I think cot/caught is regional, not temporal. I will try to test this on my nieces at Easter. It's becoming less regional and more temporal by the day. This is, there are dialects like that here in southeastern Wisconsin which firmly resist the cot - caught merger to this day regardless of age. The...
by axolotl
Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:11 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 572
Views: 668084

Re: Innovative Usage Thread

An interesting malapropism in a YouTube video description -

"I do not own this song, nor the image. I am fully complacent with any requests made to remove this video..."
by axolotl
Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:32 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)
Replies: 144
Views: 336686

Re: Pronunciation of Standard English in America (1919)

zompist wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:05 pm I think cot/caught is regional, not temporal. I will try to test this on my nieces at Easter.
It's becoming less regional and more temporal by the day.
by axolotl
Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:39 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Phonemically odd words
Replies: 11
Views: 6862

Re: Phonemically odd words

Another such word is "color," which in my speech is the only word in which [ʌl] occurs. All other potentially-/ʌl/ words are pronounced [ʊl], though a few have "uneven free variation" in which [ʌl] is also a possible (but much less likely) alternate pronunciation. I have /ʌl/ in...
by axolotl
Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:02 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Phonemically odd words
Replies: 11
Views: 6862

Re: Phonemically odd words

Another such word is "color," which in my speech is the only word in which [ʌl] occurs.

All other potentially-/ʌl/ words are pronounced [ʊl], though a few have "uneven free variation" in which [ʌl] is also a possible (but much less likely) alternate pronunciation.
by axolotl
Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:23 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 572
Views: 668084

Re: Innovative Usage Thread

An innovative usage from 5-or-6-year-old-me. One morning I kept drinking water because it felt like I had something stuck in my throat. My dad asked why I was drinking so much water, and I replied "I have a golk in my throat." It felt like it was in the back, like where g is pronounced (bu...
by axolotl
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:10 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 836063

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

How naturalistic/plausible could it be to have a morpheme that is /k/ when contained within a syllable containing a peripheral consonant but /ɣ/ elsewhen? example: mazûm > mazûğ ḫuzum > ḫuzuğ ḳurūśum > ḳurūśuğ but: rēbim > rēbik surğum > surğuk Perhaps a possible mechanism for this development: Kus...
by axolotl
Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:32 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: S-fronting in English?
Replies: 2
Views: 2976

Re: S-fronting in English?

Jonlang wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:15 am Hers's a Jon Favreau interview if you want to see what I mean.
I think he may just have an unusually dental idiolect. His /t/ and /d/ sound dental to me, unusual for most English.
by axolotl
Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:29 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
Replies: 805
Views: 549629

Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn

2+3 Clusivity wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:57 pm <album> as /'(ʔ)æl.bləm/.

.... still doesn't sound right to me without two /l/s. Sigh.

Kinda remind me of /j/ and /w/ copying across syllables in Avestan.
I have a similar thing - "only" becomes "olnly."
by axolotl
Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:44 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 572
Views: 668084

Re: Innovative Usage Thread

re: mind, above. I've never thought of "mound," but sometimes I have to stop myself from saying "remound" as a past tense of "remind." Anyway, what I was going to say: There's a distinct usage of the word "city" in Utah that is hard to describe, but I'll try t...
by axolotl
Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:12 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Little-known but seemingly common features
Replies: 38
Views: 22649

Re: Little-known but seemingly common features

When I moved to Utah in 2019, I quickly noticed that people here seem to say "to stay or to go" rather than "for here or to go" when ordering food at restaurants.

I seem to be the only person who ever notices this.
by axolotl
Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:19 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 572
Views: 668084

Re: Innovative Usage Thread

anyone here besides me say hamburg to mean ground beef? is it a New England localism? Might it even be all traceable to a single supermarket chain that one day decided to trim its label just a tiny bit so they could make the text stand out more? Ground beef is either "ground beef" or &quo...
by axolotl
Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:44 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: "Pronouncing difficult sounds" thread.
Replies: 44
Views: 40530

Re: "Pronouncing difficult sounds" thread.

How to pronounce alveolar flap next to alveolar approximant. This consonant cluster appears in American English. I can pronounce either just fine. However, when the two are together, it becomes a difficult cluster. For example: party is pronounced [pʰɑːɹɾi] it's typically a retroflex flap in that p...
by axolotl
Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:37 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: What languages are you particularly interested in, and why?
Replies: 29
Views: 20570

Re: What languages are you particularly interested in, and why?

Faroese was my big fascination for a long time. Things that attracted or continue to attract me to the language: The "Englishy" rhotic (this is what first caught my attention, thank you to Jackson Crawford for casually mentioning it in a video in 2016) The many phonological peculiarities, ...
by axolotl
Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:38 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 836063

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

This is a spectacularly late reply, but I was reading through old posts and wanted to say that /ɚ/ does seem to cause l-breaking in my speech (pretty close to GenAm), just less obviously and less dramatically than closing diphthongs and high tense vowels. "girl" is something like [kɚᵊɫ], ...
by axolotl
Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:40 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 572
Views: 668084

Re: Innovative Usage Thread

An interesting meme has been circulating in French social media: la question, elle est vite répondue . It comes from the following video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VSFjyF3B5E Why is this sentence interesting? On the surface, the sentence seems straightforward, and translates to "the que...
by axolotl
Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:44 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 836063

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

It seems like Faroese could take a similar analysis. For skerping, you have ɔu̯ ʉu̯ > ɛ ɪ before <gv>, so maybe these should be analyzed as /ɛw ɪw/ - and then you have ɛi̯ ʊi̯ ai̯ ɔi̯ > ɛ ʊ a ɔ before <ggj>, so maybe these should be analyzed as /ej uj aj oj/. But I'm not sure if this is a workable ...
by axolotl
Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:23 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 994
Views: 491380

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

So this isn't exactly a romanization challenge, it's more of a reconstruction and romanization challenge, but I thought here would be a good place to post it, just as a bit of an experiment to see if people can figure out what has happened here. If you get the reconstruction right (it's not a lot of...
by axolotl
Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:15 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Pronunciations you had to unlearn
Replies: 805
Views: 549629

Re: Pronunciations you had to unlearn

Here's an interesting one from past me that I suddenly recently remembered. Around age 4-5, I used to think the word "jaguar" was /d͡ʒægwaɪɹ/, and I would misspell it as "jagwire." Why? Because my mother has /aɪ/-monophthongization and I don't, so when I heard her say the word an...