Zompist Bboard Again

Cms are too precise and metres too vague for normal everyday things (people, cars, furniture, small boats, windows, bookshelves, pianos, cows, etc.). ... What? I am fully aware that it is possible to use decimals. However, I don't want to, so I won't. Oh, I think in Australian English, "kilo&q...

Oh, I think in Australian English, "kilo" is sometimes used for "kilometer". Definitely not. Kilos are only kilograms. Kilometers can be shortened to kays or, less formally, klicks. The only one I can think of that is ambiguous is /mɪlz/ for mm or ml. Despite being Australian, I...

Raphael wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:53 am Oh, I think in Australian English, "kilo" is sometimes used for "kilometer".

I have never heard this. Kilometres are shortened to "kay"s.

Despite being Australian, I've always used imperial for anything length-related - miles, inches, feet, acres, mph, mpg; while volume, weight and temperature I use metric. All Australians use feet and inches for height, and most use them for rough distances and estimates and a few other purposes whic...

I have recently been convinced that the "naur" vowel is a real thing, at least in eastern states Australian English (mostly as spoken by people under 30, especially women). It even makes sense in an AusEng context — diphthongs tend to spread out more exaggeratedly, hence why /aɪ̯/ becomes ...

[æːːːːːːː] is what I would term a "Tom and Jerry ahh scream".

[ɔʏ̯] is almost identical to the local AusEng GOAT vowel.

bradrn wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:16 am For my latest mockup I tried switching to Iosevka. I’m not entirely decided on whether I like the result or not.

I like it.

I can’t find anything in the paper which says this is ongoing. "It is likely that the West Coast linkage actually represents a continuation of the Eastern Skou linkage after Leitre broke off from it, because all the characteristics that define this unit are found in Leitre, with the exception ...

*gʷ → *g → *j (ongoing change) I can’t find anything in the paper which says this is ongoing. "It is likely that the West Coast linkage actually represents a continuation of the Eastern Skou linkage after Leitre broke off from it, because all the characteristics that define this unit are found...

Somewhat random question: should we asterisk protolanguage categories, or not? For instance, if a sound change has ‘all vowels’ in the target, should that be notated as V or *V ? Personally I think the former (on the basis that the asterisk represents reconstructed phonemes ), but I’m not sure. I t...

Somewhat random question: should we asterisk protolanguage categories, or not? For instance, if a sound change has ‘all vowels’ in the target, should that be notated as V or *V ? Personally I think the former (on the basis that the asterisk represents reconstructed phonemes ), but I’m not sure. I t...

I haven’t seen ⟨R⟩ before (or ⟨G⟩), but these seem reasonable. Really?? R is practically everywhere. I'm not sure about G actually, I think only CRVN are the really intuitive ones. And also the only really useful ones. I feel this would just be inviting confusion — nothing wrong with [-voice+stop]....

*ʉ → *i /S_ What is S here? (We should really figure out some coherent convention for these uppercase symbols…) Sorry, that's supposed to be just /s/. Idk why I capitalised it. As for uppercase symbols, I think there's no debate as to C = consonant V = vowel N = nasal R = approximant If we wanted t...

bradrn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:35 am

Darren wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:56 pm *ʉ̃ → ɵ̃
*ʉ → ʉ (otherwise)

Now that I have more time, I’ve resumed going through these changes, and I don’t understand the second one quoted. By ‘otherwise’, do you simply mean ‘when not nasalised’?

Yes.

Weird verbs are a characteristic feature of Skou languages; although I don't know the exact details, I believe that irregular and/or marginal object marking is relatively common. iirc object agreement is only consistently (through the family) marked on the verb "hit".

Per the discussion here : poor boor moor to pour tour tourist tournament tourniquet Tourette syndrome pʰʊː bʊː mʊː tʰə pʰʊː tʰʊː ˈtʰʊːɻəsʔ ˈtʰʊːnəmənʔ ˈtʰʊːnɪ,kʰæi̯ tʰəˈɻeʔts[ Also, what about path/truth vs. paths/truths? Saw some people elsewhere saying they pronounce the former pair of singulars ...

I’ve been trying to transcribe these changes into a webpage (apologies for the delay in doing so), and I find myself unsure about what to do with changes like: *kʷ → k, w *s → r, j *ŋ → Ø, k, n /#_ (in bound prefixes) *tl → r, t *g → h, x, Ø [et cetera, et cetera] Does Donohue ever give conditionin...

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:37 pm

Darren wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:26 pm

Nortaneous wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 7:55 pm Stieber 1973, A Historical Phonology of the Polish Language

Would you be able to post a full list of changes?

I'm working on Albanian but can try to get Polish after that

Great!

Kamula-Elevala The second branch (out of three) of Awyu-Ok. Only three languages; Aekyom and Pa form a sub-family although the shared changes are not discussed in the source. Changes are pretty good but probably missing stuff; it's all in IPA though which is pretty nice. No work has been done on Aw...