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/ʕamχt/ Xamqqt /pʰ pʼ b tʰ tʼ d tsʰ tsʼ dz tɬʰ tɬʼ dɮ kʰ kʼ g qʼ ʡ ʔ/ p pq b t tq d ts tsq dz tl tlq dl k kq g gq xq q /ɸ s ɬ ɮ χ ħ ʕ h/ f s l ll qq hh x h /z r ɣ/ z r gg /m n̪ n ŋ/ m nn n gn /i y ɯ u/ i y w u /æ œ ə a/ j v c a /iɛ yœ/ ij yv /eɪ əʊ/ ei cu /eɛ ɤɐ oə/ ej ca oc /ɑɛ øɛ ɔø ɔo ɛɪɔ/ aj vj ...

If anything is a square, it's /g/, or perhaps /ʈ/. /m/ isn't a square, it's an irregular blob. Although I agree that /k/ points upwards.

*b *d *g < b d g > *p *t *k < p t k > *pʰ *tʰ *kʰ < p' t' k' > *d͡z *d͡ʒ < dj djh > *t͡s *t͡ʃ  < c ch > *t͡sʰ *t͡ʃʰ < c' ch' > *β *z *ʐ *ʑ *ɣ < v z zh zj x > *ɸ *s *ʂ *ɕ *x < f s sh sj q > *ɾ *r *ɽ < r rr rh > *l *ɭ *ʎ < l lh lj > *ɺ *ɭ̆  *ʎ̆ < rl rlh rlj > *w *ɥ *j < w wj y > *m *n *ɳ *ɲ *ŋ < m n n...

I think /k/ is pointy enough to be a triangle. And /t/ (especially an alveolar one) feels quite square.

Raphael wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:07 pmBasketball.

[ˈbaːskəʔˌbʊˑu̯(ɫʷ)]

Something inspired by Mbato: /ɠ̥ɵ́kʰlɪ̃̀ɟɵ̀ʛwʉ̀/ /b͡pʰ tʰ ɟ͡cʰ kʰ/ /t ɟ k q/ /ɓ ɗ̥ ʄ ɠ̥ ʛ/ /ɓ~w~ŋ͡m~ŋ͡ʘ ɗ~l~n ʄ~j~ɲ/ /f s x/ +ATR /i ʉ u e ɵ/ –ATR /ɪ ʊ ɔ ɵ a/ nasal /ɪ̃ ʊ̟̃ ɞ̃/ The protolang had two stop series *T D and an approximant series *R. The *D series became aspirated and the *R series harde...

FWIW I have: comm [kʰɔm] calm [kʰäːm] call , cool [kʰʊˑu̯(ɫʷ)] doll [dɔɫʷ ~ dɔu̯(ɫʷ)] The latter likes to merge with dole [dɔu̯(ɫʷ)], which is the same for basically all /ɔl/ words like poll , atoll , quoll . Although lol is resistant, always [ɫʷɔɫʷ], but even then it's probably slightly higher than...

apparently deal, seal, peal are standardly [-iːl] but real is standardly [ˈriːəl], which he chalks up to the different etymologies of the words As another australian I have this. Almost all -eal words are /iːl/ (realised as [ɪːɫʷ]) except for real , reel , eel , seal (the animal) and wheel which ar...

They consistently lower vowels, and sometimes also centralise them (e.g. in Ditidaht, Nuu-chah-nulth, Tsakhur, Udi) This sounds interesting; do you have any references I can read through? There's this one on Ditidaht, this one for the Northeast Caucasian languages and this one for Nuu-chah-nulth. I...

Would it be sensible for /a/ to be realised as [ɒ] next to [ħ] in a three-vowel system? I’d say it seems plausible to me, but pharyngeals do weird things, so I’m not sure. (Apparently Arabic has [æ] in this position, but it has [æ] next to most other consonants too.) Counterintuitively, pharyngeals...

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[kɛːɡʷ]
keosh
“dog”

Raphael wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:47 am Do people in Britain still use that homophobic slur as a slang term for "cigarette", or has that died out by now?

I know some older people who do here in Australia.

Ká beh tǐ dene' ah dlî "di'lei" de'ʔû ûbo' yẽ'wî. [ka˥ bɛ̤˩ ti˨˩˥ dɛ˨nɛ̃˧ a̤˩ dɺi̝˩ di˧ɺɛi̯˨ dɛ˧ʔu̝˩ u̝˩βɔ˧ j̃ɛ̃˧wi̝˩] IRREAL SR COV.must possess AGT 1SG "relay" LKR.language COV.work repeat.action I should be working on the relay languages. Ká beh dene' o' Omaʔlá kla ûbo' yẽ'wî...

Has anyone noticed a realisation of /u/ as [ʉ]? Could this lead to u > y in the future? Yes to both. I have something like /əʉ̯/ for GOOSE which leaves room for /ʊː/ THOUGHT/NORTH/FORCE/CURE in the high back space. I've also got /ɵː/ for NURSE, so it's conceivable that future Australian English wil...

One of the candidates for Supreme Court here in Wisconsin, Janet Protasiewicz, has her last name pronounced /ˌproʊtəˈseɪwɪts/ most commonly here. While the /wɪts/ pronunciation of - wicz is not unusual here - I knew someone from elementary school through high school who pronounced it in her name th...

I can't think of any examples, either, but [m] > [ɲ] before i seems plausible enough if Old French can have medial palatal /p b/ become /tʃ dʒ/. That's an example that gets used a lot, but I think the current consensus is that it actually went pjV bjV > ptʃV bdʒV > tʃV dʒV rather than pʲ bʲ > tʃ dʒ...

Your sound changes on their own are mostly fine, although I'd second all of Travis's suggestions. v / θ / _{a,e,i} This is the weirdest one you've got. I can potentially see it working if as Travis said you change it to ð instead. Ideally, you could have something like {m v} / {n ð} /_i, which would...

There is no reason why a reconstructed proto-lang should behave differently from a real, attested one. I disagree. In the real world, a protolang is always hampered by the limitations of the comparative method, so it inevitably does behave differently from an attested one. If PIE was attested, we'd...

There is no reason why a reconstructed proto-lang should behave differently from a real, attested one. I disagree. In the real world, a protolang is always hampered by the limitations of the comparative method, so it inevitably does behave differently from an attested one. If PIE was attested, we'd...