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by Darren
Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:22 pm
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Lakes Plain sound changes
Replies: 20
Views: 21980

Re: Lakes Plain sound changes

I know we’re all busy with the relay etc., but have you by any chance gotten around to doing any work on this? Not really... I've also lost my free excel + word subscriptions from school so it's harder to work on now. I'll pick it back up when I can. Sorry to hear that! If it helps, I’ve been using...
by Darren
Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:35 pm
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Lakes Plain sound changes
Replies: 20
Views: 21980

Re: Lakes Plain sound changes

bradrn wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:55 am I know we’re all busy with the relay etc., but have you by any chance gotten around to doing any work on this?
Not really... I've also lost my free excel + word subscriptions from school so it's harder to work on now. I'll pick it back up when I can.
by Darren
Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:32 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: From a noob: Is this a realistic phonology?
Replies: 21
Views: 2076

Re: From a noob: Is this a realistic phonology?

Hi. I’m new to conlanging, and am not sure whether my new Elvish-y (for the lack of a better term) conlang has a realistic phonology. Any advice would be appreciated. Here it is: Consonant phonemes: p, b, t, d, k, g, f, v, s, x, h, m, n, ŋ, r, l, j, w, ʍ (Note: I would format it as a table, but it ...
by Darren
Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:25 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1467
Views: 501093

Re: English questions

Recently I've noticed people consistently using [l] as an allophone of /t d/. It seems to be the dissimilated realisation of the second instance of a flapped alveolar stop in a word/phrase, e.g. fixated in [fɪkˈsæi̯ɾɪlɪn]. It's hard to say for sure but I think in AusEng at least it's different to th...
by Darren
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:45 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: What do you call ...
Replies: 430
Views: 1034935

Re: What do you call ...

What do you call ways of walking? E.g., one way has one's feet next to each other like when standing normally, and each step brings one foot straight forward, so after two steps, one is standing again. Another way sort of takes the phrase "put one foot in front of the other" literally, wh...
by Darren
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:22 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 1045
Views: 1120682

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

It seems as if PIE underwent a massive merger of vowels (which I call the "Great Vowel Collapse", abbreviated "GVC") before (or in the course of) the rise of the ablaut system, and it may be the case that the *T(h)/*Dh split conserves old vowel quality differences, similar to th...
by Darren
Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:33 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
Replies: 1045
Views: 1120682

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel

(Couldn't front vowels voice surrounding consonants in Turkic or something like that?) Yep. Stop voicing is associated with advanced tongue root, which means that front vowels can voice consonants as seen in Oghuz Turkic. It can also go the other way round, like Adjarian's law in Armenian where vow...
by Darren
Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:17 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Avoiding a name conflict
Replies: 9
Views: 1421

Re: Avoiding a name conflict

If you wanna talk about a real name conflict in the Romance languages, there's Romania (the country where Romanian is spoken) vs. Romania (the Romance-speaking domain) which are at best distinguished by a single letter.
by Darren
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:59 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Word evolution game
Replies: 2733
Views: 344118

Re: Word evolution game

[θ] → [f]

['fe.çi]
télhi
by Darren
Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:20 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1820
Views: 4988141

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

I'd say [ˌmeɫəd͡ʒɻʷəˈmæɾəʔk̚], with a schwa for the second vowel.
by Darren
Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:17 am
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Lakes Plain sound changes
Replies: 20
Views: 21980

Re: Lakes Plain sound changes

Thanks! I must admit, I’m a bit curious as to how *ai turned into Saponi mamiɾɛ … but otherwise the relationship between the languages is really obvious! Saponi is a weird one. Its pronouns seem to be borrowed from East Bird's Head languages (1pl * meme , 2sg * ba ), although lexically it's pretty ...
by Darren
Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:22 pm
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Lakes Plain sound changes
Replies: 20
Views: 21980

Re: Lakes Plain sound changes

I've just finished compiling a comparative Lakes Plain wordlist which covers a bit over 500 headwords for up to 25 languages, which as far as I know is the most comprehensive one to date. I'll be having a go at working out some further sound changes which weren't covered by Clouse. If anyone wants ...
by Darren
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:09 pm
Forum: End Matter
Topic: Lakes Plain sound changes
Replies: 20
Views: 21980

Re: Lakes Plain sound changes

I've just finished compiling a comparative Lakes Plain wordlist which covers a bit over 500 headwords for up to 25 languages, which as far as I know is the most comprehensive one to date. I'll be having a go at working out some further sound changes which weren't covered by Clouse. If anyone wants t...
by Darren
Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:00 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4924
Views: 2344738

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

High functional load isn't prohibitive - IIRC there's a case study of n > l in Cantonese about this, but also consider the phonological developments of Polynesian and North Bougainville I've had another look over the wordlists, and I'm beginning to think the 5-consonant inventory may not be so goof...
by Darren
Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:28 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Word evolution game
Replies: 2733
Views: 344118

Re: Word evolution game

Metathesis

[ɕu.ɬɘ]
shułi
'a type of game similar to chess'
by Darren
Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:29 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4924
Views: 2344738

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Thanks! Maybe k > ʔ (as in Wutung and Gimi) > 0 [recently? only for certain speakers?] but I agree that it's a little dubious. Especially given the high functional load /k/ would have. /k/ seems to usually be the most common consonant in LP languages so it would be weird to just drop it. Although t...
by Darren
Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:06 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4924
Views: 2344738

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

where? I've been unable to find any documentation of Biritai It's in two papers by Mark Donohue. The first one co-authored with Bill Ross in 2011, which adds /j w/ to the consonants, and the second (actually a talk i think) is from 2017. I'm pretty sceptical of the claim myself given that in all th...
by Darren
Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:37 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4924
Views: 2344738

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I just read that Biritai, a Lakes Plain language, apparently has the following phonemic inventory: /b t d/ /ɸ s/ /i ɯ u/ /e/ /ɛ ɔ/ /a/ Which means it's possibly the only language in the world with just five consonants (?) Is "Biritai" an exonym? I'd assume not. Most Lakes Plain languages ...
by Darren
Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:25 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4924
Views: 2344738

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I just read that Biritai, a Lakes Plain language, apparently has the following phonemic inventory:

/b t d/
/ɸ s/

/i ɯ u/
/e/
/ɛ ɔ/
/a/

Which means it's possibly the only language in the world with just five consonants (?)
by Darren
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Word evolution game
Replies: 2733
Views: 344118

Re: Word evolution game

Nasal dissimilation

月夜見
にみ
[ɟmi]
dymi