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- Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:22 pm
- Forum: End Matter
- Topic: Lakes Plain sound changes
- Replies: 20
- Views: 21980
Re: Lakes Plain sound changes
I know we’re all busy with the relay etc., but have you by any chance gotten around to doing any work on this? Not really... I've also lost my free excel + word subscriptions from school so it's harder to work on now. I'll pick it back up when I can. Sorry to hear that! If it helps, I’ve been using...
- Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:35 pm
- Forum: End Matter
- Topic: Lakes Plain sound changes
- Replies: 20
- Views: 21980
- Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:32 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: From a noob: Is this a realistic phonology?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 2076
Re: From a noob: Is this a realistic phonology?
Hi. I’m new to conlanging, and am not sure whether my new Elvish-y (for the lack of a better term) conlang has a realistic phonology. Any advice would be appreciated. Here it is: Consonant phonemes: p, b, t, d, k, g, f, v, s, x, h, m, n, ŋ, r, l, j, w, ʍ (Note: I would format it as a table, but it ...
- Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:25 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: English questions
- Replies: 1467
- Views: 501093
Re: English questions
Recently I've noticed people consistently using [l] as an allophone of /t d/. It seems to be the dissimilated realisation of the second instance of a flapped alveolar stop in a word/phrase, e.g. fixated in [fɪkˈsæi̯ɾɪlɪn]. It's hard to say for sure but I think in AusEng at least it's different to th...
- Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:45 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: What do you call ...
- Replies: 430
- Views: 1034935
Re: What do you call ...
What do you call ways of walking? E.g., one way has one's feet next to each other like when standing normally, and each step brings one foot straight forward, so after two steps, one is standing again. Another way sort of takes the phrase "put one foot in front of the other" literally, wh...
- Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:22 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
- Replies: 1045
- Views: 1120682
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
It seems as if PIE underwent a massive merger of vowels (which I call the "Great Vowel Collapse", abbreviated "GVC") before (or in the course of) the rise of the ablaut system, and it may be the case that the *T(h)/*Dh split conserves old vowel quality differences, similar to th...
- Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:33 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
- Replies: 1045
- Views: 1120682
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread's Sequel
(Couldn't front vowels voice surrounding consonants in Turkic or something like that?) Yep. Stop voicing is associated with advanced tongue root, which means that front vowels can voice consonants as seen in Oghuz Turkic. It can also go the other way round, like Adjarian's law in Armenian where vow...
- Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:17 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Avoiding a name conflict
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1421
Re: Avoiding a name conflict
If you wanna talk about a real name conflict in the Romance languages, there's Romania (the country where Romanian is spoken) vs. Romania (the Romance-speaking domain) which are at best distinguished by a single letter.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:59 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Word evolution game
- Replies: 2733
- Views: 344118
Re: Word evolution game
[θ] → [f]
['fe.çi]
télhi
['fe.çi]
télhi
- Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:20 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 1820
- Views: 4988141
Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
I'd say [ˌmeɫəd͡ʒɻʷəˈmæɾəʔk̚], with a schwa for the second vowel.
- Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:17 am
- Forum: End Matter
- Topic: Lakes Plain sound changes
- Replies: 20
- Views: 21980
Re: Lakes Plain sound changes
Thanks! I must admit, I’m a bit curious as to how *ai turned into Saponi mamiɾɛ … but otherwise the relationship between the languages is really obvious! Saponi is a weird one. Its pronouns seem to be borrowed from East Bird's Head languages (1pl * meme , 2sg * ba ), although lexically it's pretty ...
- Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:22 pm
- Forum: End Matter
- Topic: Lakes Plain sound changes
- Replies: 20
- Views: 21980
Re: Lakes Plain sound changes
I've just finished compiling a comparative Lakes Plain wordlist which covers a bit over 500 headwords for up to 25 languages, which as far as I know is the most comprehensive one to date. I'll be having a go at working out some further sound changes which weren't covered by Clouse. If anyone wants ...
- Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:09 pm
- Forum: End Matter
- Topic: Lakes Plain sound changes
- Replies: 20
- Views: 21980
Re: Lakes Plain sound changes
I've just finished compiling a comparative Lakes Plain wordlist which covers a bit over 500 headwords for up to 25 languages, which as far as I know is the most comprehensive one to date. I'll be having a go at working out some further sound changes which weren't covered by Clouse. If anyone wants t...
- Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:00 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4924
- Views: 2344738
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
High functional load isn't prohibitive - IIRC there's a case study of n > l in Cantonese about this, but also consider the phonological developments of Polynesian and North Bougainville I've had another look over the wordlists, and I'm beginning to think the 5-consonant inventory may not be so goof...
- Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:28 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Word evolution game
- Replies: 2733
- Views: 344118
Re: Word evolution game
Metathesis
[ɕu.ɬɘ]
shułi
'a type of game similar to chess'
[ɕu.ɬɘ]
shułi
'a type of game similar to chess'
- Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:29 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4924
- Views: 2344738
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Thanks! Maybe k > ʔ (as in Wutung and Gimi) > 0 [recently? only for certain speakers?] but I agree that it's a little dubious. Especially given the high functional load /k/ would have. /k/ seems to usually be the most common consonant in LP languages so it would be weird to just drop it. Although t...
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:06 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4924
- Views: 2344738
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
where? I've been unable to find any documentation of Biritai It's in two papers by Mark Donohue. The first one co-authored with Bill Ross in 2011, which adds /j w/ to the consonants, and the second (actually a talk i think) is from 2017. I'm pretty sceptical of the claim myself given that in all th...
- Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:37 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4924
- Views: 2344738
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I just read that Biritai, a Lakes Plain language, apparently has the following phonemic inventory: /b t d/ /ɸ s/ /i ɯ u/ /e/ /ɛ ɔ/ /a/ Which means it's possibly the only language in the world with just five consonants (?) Is "Biritai" an exonym? I'd assume not. Most Lakes Plain languages ...
- Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:25 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4924
- Views: 2344738
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I just read that Biritai, a Lakes Plain language, apparently has the following phonemic inventory:
/b t d/
/ɸ s/
/i ɯ u/
/e/
/ɛ ɔ/
/a/
Which means it's possibly the only language in the world with just five consonants (?)
/b t d/
/ɸ s/
/i ɯ u/
/e/
/ɛ ɔ/
/a/
Which means it's possibly the only language in the world with just five consonants (?)
- Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Word evolution game
- Replies: 2733
- Views: 344118
Re: Word evolution game
Nasal dissimilation
月夜見
にみ
[ɟmi]
dymi
月夜見
にみ
[ɟmi]
dymi