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by Darren
Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:39 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Anyone up for a good old-fashioned translation relay? RESULTS POSTED
Replies: 136
Views: 62746

Re: Anyone up for a good old-fashioned translation relay?

I'm ready if everyone still wants to start on April 1. Man in Space, do you want to edit the first post, or start a new thread? Also, it's your show, but maybe message the people involved to remind them of their place in the schedule. I'm still down, and those are good ideas. Thank you. Everyone: P...
by Darren
Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:51 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phrase evolution game
Replies: 742
Views: 314480

Re: Phrase evolution game

/ʃ ç j/ > s /t͡ʃ/ > /t͡s/ /iɐ̯ yɐ̯/ > /ɨ/ Umlaut caused by /i y u/ in post-tonic syllables, causing /ɨ eː øː e ø ɛ/ > /i iː yː i y e/; then /i y u/ are lost where possible. /ɰ/ > /v/ Final devoicing, including /l n/ > /ɬ n̥/ Post-tonic long vowels shortened. Unstressed /i a/ > /ə ɐ/ /x t/ > /s t͡s/...
by Darren
Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:53 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phrase evolution game
Replies: 742
Views: 314480

Re: Phrase evolution game

Bisyllables are reanalysed as sesquisyllables with the form CVC.C̩(C). Stress is shifted to the first vowel, and the second syllable is reduced to a single syllabic consonant with an optional coda. Syllabic /k/ shifts to /ɰ̩/. /iaC/ becomes /is.C̩/. Coda /w ʁ/ > /f/ /ʁ/ > /j/ /pl/ > /c/; then all /...
by Darren
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:33 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phrase evolution game
Replies: 742
Views: 314480

Re: Phrase evolution game

Coda rhotics metathesise into the onset /i̯/ > /l/ following a consonant; /ll/ > /dl/ Creaky voiced vowels glottalise the onset. /lṼ rṼ/ > /nV/ Nasal vowels denasalised before nasal consonants Short vowels lax /i y u e a/ > /ɪ ɨ ʊ æ ʌ/, then long vowels shorten /ʁr ʑr/ > /qr ɟr/ /c͡ɕ/ > /c/ /ɲlek ʈ...
by Darren
Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:11 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phrase evolution game
Replies: 742
Views: 314480

Re: Phrase evolution game

1: Nasal diphthongs precipitate their nasality as a consonant; homorganic before a consonant and /æ̃ɔ̯̃ ə̃ɨ̯̃ ɐ̃ũ̯ ẽɪ̯̃/ > /æŋ əŋ ɐm eɲ/ otherwise. /i e æ/ > /ɨ i e/; /æɔ̯/ > /eɔ̯/ > /eu̯/ Coda /ʎ/ > /u̯/, otherwise coda approximants lost /θ ð x/ > /f v f/ /ˈfu ə ˈizə ɐmˈmeŋ ˈniʒəŋ ˈʎɐu̯ɾə ɐi̯ˈgweu̯...
by Darren
Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:15 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phrase evolution game
Replies: 742
Views: 314480

Re: Phrase evolution game

/t͡s d͡z/ > /θ ð/, /ð̞/ > /ð/ Vowels lengthened it stressed syllables followed by a resonant or word-finally, and when nasalised; then /iː uː eː əː oː aː/ > /ɐi̯ ɐu̯ eɪ̯ əɨ̯ oʊ̯ æɔ̯/ Unstressed /i u/ > /ɨ/, /e o/ > /ɐ/, /a/ > /ɐ/ Coda /l/ > /ʎ/ Toz ells éssers humans neixen lliures i igualls en dig...
by Darren
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:25 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phrase evolution game
Replies: 742
Views: 314480

Re: Phrase evolution game

Verschärfung; /ɪ̯/ > /k~ɡ/, then /ɑ/ merges with /a/ /ɒ/ > /ɔ/ /xw ɣw sw/ > /kw ɡw t͡sw/ /ɥɛ/ > /i/ /x ʎ/ > /h ɲ/ /ɐ/ > /ɨ/ /ˈkʍak ɪˈʃak ɨ hɛˈɲak ˈɡwɔ ‖ ɨ sɨ ˈsak ɡʊˈzaɡŋ | ak ˈdaɡ.ʁɨ ɡwaɡˈzakʔ ‖ ɨˈʁak | maʊ̯ ɾɔkˈtɾiʔ | ɛ ˈɲɛk t͡swɔ hɛˈɲak ɨ/ Cuo išia a heusliuí uos. A sa só Guzóng, á daula Uózór. ...
by Darren
Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:38 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phrase evolution game
Replies: 742
Views: 314480

Re: Phrase evolution game

/iː yː uː øː oː aː/ > /æɪ̯ ɔɪ̯ ɑʊ̯ œʏ̯ ɒʏ̯ ɑɛ̯/ /ɫɥ/ > /ʎ/, /ɫ/ > /ʁ/ /tw kw/ > /t͡sw k͡xw/ > /sʷ ʍ/ coda /s/ lost, /ɾ/ > /ʔ/ /ˈʍɒʏ̯ ɪˈʃjɑɛ̯ ɐ xœˈʎæɪ̯ ˈwɒ ‖ ɐ sɐ ˈsɒʏ̯ ɡʊˈzɒʏ̯ŋ | ɑɛ̯ ˈdɒʏ̯.ʁɐ wɒʏ̯ˈzɒʏ̯ʔ ‖ ɐˈʁɒʏ̯ | mɑʊ̯ ɾɔɪ̯ˈtɾɥɛt | ɛ ˈʎœʏ̯ sʷɒ xœˈʎæɪ̯ ɐ/ Cuo išia a heusliuí uos. A sa só Guzóng. Á d...
by Darren
Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:12 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phrase evolution game
Replies: 742
Views: 314480

Re: Phrase evolution game

/p b t d k l/ > /t͡ɕ d͡ʑ ɬ z h ɲ/ before front vowels. Post-tonic /ə/ lost; then any resulting final post-consonantal /j/ > /i/ Rounding harmony within a word, with preference towards rounding Final /m n nn/ > /mp nt ŋ/ Post-vocalic /l ɾ/ > /o̯ a̯/ [ˈt͡ɕyːa̯ eˈʃeː ə føs.høˈɬyːnt ˈvøst ‖ ə sə ˈsɔŋ d...
by Darren
Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:04 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Postpositions?
Replies: 145
Views: 47799

Re: Postpositions?

The other day, I looked through a copy of Linguistics For Dummies figuring that it was a safe bet I could find what postpositions were, as they were part of a definition I had kindly been given a few days before that. Except the book didn't have them, not in the index or the table of contents. {as ...
by Darren
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:18 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4959574

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

I have a friend who has GOAT (and no /l/) in at least some of these al- words. I'd guess it's the result of an earlier irregular l-vocalisation. Why would that be an irregular l-vocalisation? If the /l/ is vocalised to /u/, you get /ɔu/, which is close enough to GOAT to shift over? JAL Cause it doe...
by Darren
Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:41 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 1782
Views: 4959574

Re: The "How Do You Pronounce X" Thread

The other day I heard someone say almost /ɔʉ̯mɔʉ̯st/, with what sounded like a GOAT vowel in the first syllable. That's not plain /l/-vocalisation; I'd say [ˈʊw̠mɔʉ̟̯s]. (as usual I’m not certain about my exact realisation of /r/) Australian r has something weird going on. I'm very unsure about wher...
by Darren
Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:59 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phrase evolution game
Replies: 742
Views: 314480

Re: Phrase evolution game

/kj d͡zj ɟ/ → /t͡ʃ d͡ʒ d͡ʒ/ /t͡s d͡z/ → /s z/ /oə uə iə/ → /øː yː iː/ Rounded vowel harmony; if a word has one front rounded vowel then all other rounded vowels become front. Final /l r/ → /ɥ/ Final /s x/ → /j/, /ij oːj øːj/ → /iː øːɥ øːɥ/ /l j/ → /n ɲ/ after a nasal vowel; nasal vowels denasalise....
by Darren
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:37 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phrase evolution game
Replies: 742
Views: 314480

Re: Phrase evolution game

Stressed /æ/ → /jɑ/ Nasal vowels denasalised /ɛ̃ õ ã õũ̯ ɛ̃ũ̯ ɛ̃j/ → /æ ɔ ɑ ɑo̯ æo̯ æe̯/ /stj/ → /ɕt͡ɕ/ /j ʎ ɥ/ → /ʑ/, lost after an obstruent, → /ɕ/ word-finally final /e̯/ → /k/ /u o ɔ e a/ → /y u o ø ə/, /o̯/ → /u̯/ /ʃ ʒ/ → /x ɻ/ /ɲ ɲʑ/ → /nd͡ʑ/ /d g/ → /t k/ /bɑˈnæ oɕuˈʑæ ɛ ˈɕt͡ɕɑ o puˈlɑɕ itəˈ...
by Darren
Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:05 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phrase evolution game
Replies: 742
Views: 314480

Re: Phrase evolution game

Geminates palatalised /sː nː/ → /ɕ ɲ/ Long vowels break /iː oː aː ɔː/ → /ɑi̯ u̯i ɛi̯ ɔu̯/ Vowels lax in closed syllables /i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ → /ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ ɛ ɔ æ/ Vowels next to a nasal segment nasalise, then nasals adjacent to a word boundary or another consonant are lost In stressed syllable onsets /p t ...
by Darren
Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:53 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Phrase evolution game
Replies: 742
Views: 314480

Re: Phrase evolution game

Benito Mussolini è stato un politico italiano e fondatore del fascismo. Governò l'Italia dal 1926 al 1945 quando tornò la democrazia. ['benito muso'lini e 'stato un po'litico ita'liano e fonda'tore del fa'ʃizmo. gove'rno li'talia dal 1926 al 1945 'kwando to'rno la demokra'zia] More accurate would b...
by Darren
Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:14 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2155495

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Can languages suddenly develop prohibiition against closed syllabees out of nowhere? Like if English [dog] suddenlt started turning into [doge] or [dogo] out of thin air? The Slavic languages did this. And it wasn't just a coincidental result of one change; it was the result of a number of rules wh...
by Darren
Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:15 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2155495

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Are there languages that have phonemic syllable boundaries? I.e. is there a language that distinguishes between /'uf.ljuf/ and /'u.fljuf/? Arguably some Lakes Plains langages, e.g. Sikaritai /kód.á/ "later" vs. /kú.da/ "caterpillar", although that's heavily supported by allophon...
by Darren
Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:30 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 2155495

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

As someone who knows next to nothing about Papuan, this conversation is pretty interesting... Truncated pronoun systems are common [...] wack pronoun systems Any memorable example(s) you could share? Sure! Golin is the one with only two personal pronouns; first person ná and second person í . No nu...