Zompist Bboard Again

When people speak of "diphthongization of high long vowels" I always had thought of them as [ɪj] and [ʊw], i.e. only lightly diphthongized. (I only diphthongize mine when I have /uː/ after a coronal/palatal and before a dorsal, as [yu].) There's register-related alternation; careful [ɪi̯ ...

Kurwa is a song containing phrases in a bunch of different languages. Most of them are well-known phrases from widely-spoken languages. A couple of less-known ones are kil monda (Tatar) and oyboy (Kazakh). Rakamakafo is a garbled version of rock the microphone from "Freestyler". Does anyo...

Who rounds or doesn't round the vowel in gonna ? In the dialect here it is [ˈɡ̥ʌ̃ɾ̃ə(ː)] or even just [ɡ̥ʌ̃ː], but I have heard people on the radio with pronunciations with rounded (and closer) vowels such as [ˈɡ̥õ̞ɾ̃ə(ː)]. In Australia it's [ɔ] LOT. In the UK it seems to be [ʌ] STRUT (at least in ...

dɮ the phoneme wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 3:55 am What texts are these examples from specifically?

The ones in the first post are

https://archive.org/details/bibliotheca ... 7/mode/2up

https://archive.org/details/iohannissch ... 1/mode/2up

https://archive.org/details/manlypalmer ... 3/mode/2up

Glass Half Baked wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:51 pm

vlad wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 6:28 pm The only Tironian note I've ever seen used anywhere is ⁊.

Luckily, there is a solution to this problem here.

Go do it then.

What would make this better is if we could find one of these texts that also incorporates Tironian notes . The only Tironian note I've ever seen used anywhere is ⁊. Sure, it may be the only one in modern usage, and then pretty much just in Ireland and Scotland, but are we just considering documents...

Glass Half Baked wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 5:54 pm What would make this better is if we could find one of these texts that also incorporates Tironian notes.

The only Tironian note I've ever seen used anywhere is ⁊.

Here's another example of the same idea in print, with German in blackletter and Latin in antiqua:


<☿🜄> = Mercurial-Wasser, <componiret>


<philoſophiſche>, <antimonialiſchen>

Zju wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:05 pm

hwhatting wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:00 am

Creyeditor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2024 1:40 pm This lools so cool

Seconded.

Thirded. Is there some sort of compilation or index of these manuscripts?

There's bibliographies of alchemical texts but I don't think there's a list of ones that are specifically written like this.

bradrn wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 4:54 am

vlad wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 1:27 am

Emily wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 12:16 am

• he transcribes the first vowel in aqueduct as [æ]

[æ]quaman (1967)
[ɑ]quaman (1973) (also [sju]perman at one point)

I’ve always pronounced it with /æ/, but it’s probably a spelling pronunciation.

That's the standard pronunciation outside America.

Emily wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 12:16 am

• he transcribes the first vowel in aqueduct as [æ]

[æ]quaman (1967)
[ɑ]quaman (1973) (also [sju]perman at one point)

So it used to be common in western Europe to use two different scripts to represent different languages. Usually this was blackletter for Germanic languages and roman/antiqua for Latin or Romance languages. Here's an example from a grammar of Spanish: https://i.imgur.com/NK08yL3.jpeg The modern equi...

Interestingly, most of our data is in the Latin alphabet, which had to go through 16th century Spanish conventions. I really don't know how much material we have in the native script, but I think it's really not much. It's more than you might think. Here's Moteuczoma in the Codex Mendoza (is there ...

E.g. Moteuczoma is literally "He-is-Lordly-Angry", but there's a distinction between the verb ninoteuczoma "I am lordly angry" and the noun niMoteuczoma "I am He-is-Lordly-Angry". It's kind of like how English handles movie/book/song/etc. titles. What's going on with h...

Do natlangs tend to give names more leeway in regards to phonology and their syllable structures than other nouns? Or maybe less ("only endings 1 and 2 are used for names, everything else is a normal noun")? Names are just nouns, except when they're not. That is, they are not a syntactic ...

Glass Half Baked wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:49 pmEnglish pidgins always, AFAIK, analyze the objective form as the "main" form

Chinese Pidgin English used my as the general first person pronoun. (Similarly, Pidgin Portuguese used minha as the nominative, for some reason.)

Racists like Linguoboy should not be tolerated.

Not a specific word, but rather some phonemes. What specific articulation are your coronals? Maybe /r/ as well but that's barely coronal. I'd be interested in any languages, but primarily English. I've heard (IIRC) that the distribution between apical and laminal /s/ is random throughout dialects, ...

How do you pronounce "various" and "rule"? I'm particularly curious as to whether non-rhotic speakers have a syllable final rhotic in the bisyllabic pronunciation or the first, or an onset /ɹj/. I'm not sure how one objectively distinguishes the two possibilities. I don't have a...

[hr] Chinese (Mandarin): Teresa Teng - 月亮代表我的心 (24.1 million) I think the biggest lesson of this bullet point is that the Chinese internet doesn't use Spotify. (And possibly that Cantonese-speakers use it more than Mandarin-speakers.) Could also be that there's some other more popular Mandarin song...