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by priscianic
Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:36 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4751
Views: 2194020

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Ser has basically covered what I'd say about subjunctives. As Ser says, it's hard to disentangle "what the subjunctive means" from "what it's come to be used for after thousands of years of development". The prototypical meaning is (I think) still irrealis, but it's not exactly ...
by priscianic
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:45 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4751
Views: 2194020

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

For example: 1) Me alegra que haya llegado Juan. (Spanish) me make.happy.3sg that have.SBJV.3sg arrived Juan ‘I'm glad that Juan arrived.’ You can't say this sentence if you don't believe that Juan arrived. You're not saying that you're glad (or would be glad) if Juan arrived in some hypothetical w...
by priscianic
Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:31 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 572
Views: 670726

Re: Innovative Usage Thread

Does no one like "me and my wife's personal Christmas card"?
by priscianic
Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:36 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4751
Views: 2194020

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Mood, on the other hand, is less well formalized and studied compared to modality, at least within the semantics literature—a notable exception is Portner's (2018) book on mood. In it, he distinguishes between two notions of mood: sentence mood , which roughly corresponds to the notion of "sen...
by priscianic
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:04 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4751
Views: 2194020

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Would it be correct to say that all languages have some way of representing modality, but not all have a way to represent mood? And if a language has mood, then does it tend to not have a grammatical category of modals? I think that the answer to your first question is yes, and I have really no ide...
by priscianic
Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:02 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4751
Views: 2194020

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I don't know much about linguistics beyond traditional grammar, but if I understand you well: it seems to me that, in French (or Romance in general), mood and modality are orthogonal. Mood (or at least verbal mood) is expressed through verb morphology ( je sais / je saurais / que je sache / sache /...
by priscianic
Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:02 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4751
Views: 2194020

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I think some of the discussion here re: mood and modality seems to be assuming that mood can be reduced to or is fundamentally the same thing as modality (or vice-versa). (I think some of the replies fight against this notion). Certainly Kat's original question presupposes that there's an inherent c...
by priscianic
Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Syntax random
Replies: 195
Views: 118605

Re: Syntax random

I suppose I’m talking more about sentences like ‘He studies linguistics at the university’, which seems pretty simple but ends up with a tree like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Xbarst1.svg You're right that, just looking at this one sentence "He studies linguistics ...
by priscianic
Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:10 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Syntax random
Replies: 195
Views: 118605

Re: Syntax random

If you exhaustively know what's possible, then you also exhaustively know what's impossible, and likewise if you exhaustively know what's impossible, then you also exhaustively know what's possible (assuming that …) Granted. The difference I'm pointing at is that syntax starts with enormously permi...
by priscianic
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:29 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Syntax random
Replies: 195
Views: 118605

Re: Syntax random

It appears to me that most arguments in theoretical syntax have the form "sentence X is bad/ungrammatical, therefore we shall explain this happening because…". Where does this come from ? This seems to me to be unlike anything else in linguistics. Nobody thinks it needs a particular expla...
by priscianic
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:00 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Syntax random
Replies: 195
Views: 118605

Re: Syntax random

It appears to me that most arguments in theoretical syntax have the form "sentence X is bad/ungrammatical, therefore we shall explain this happening because…". Where does this come from ? This seems to me to be unlike anything else in linguistics. Nobody thinks it needs a particular expla...
by priscianic
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:33 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Semantics of archetypes
Replies: 50
Views: 25884

Re: Semantics of archetypes

No it isn’t: ‘A chair is an item of furniture which is used for sitting on, fits one person, and has a back’. I have a friend who has an ergonomic kneeling chair: there's a seat that's slightly tilted forward that you sit on, two lower pads raised off the ground that you put your knees on (such tha...
by priscianic
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:29 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Syntax random
Replies: 195
Views: 118605

Re: Syntax random

There actually is somewhat of a literature within a broadly Chomskyan framework on this kind of phenomenon (you might see it called "matrix que ", since it's a que appearing in a matrix/main clause); for instance, Etxepare (2007) , Demonte and Fernández Soriano (2014) , and Corr (2016) , ...
by priscianic
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:15 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Semantics of archetypes
Replies: 50
Views: 25884

Re: Semantics of archetypes

Is a stool a chair? … it's hard to define "chair" in a way that excludes stools … No it isn’t: ‘A chair is an item of furniture which is used for sitting on, fits one person, and has a back’. I have a friend who has an ergonomic kneeling chair: there's a seat that's slightly tilted forwar...
by priscianic
Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:29 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Syntax random
Replies: 195
Views: 118605

Re: Syntax random

Oh, while I'm here, is anyone aware of any resources on syntax of morphologically complex languages? My specific issue is that in researching Iroquoian languages, it became quite clear that they're most definitely not all morphology and no syntax... but reference grammars understandably focus on mo...
by priscianic
Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:15 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Syntax random
Replies: 195
Views: 118605

Re: Syntax random

Thanks for coming by, priscianic! More syntax people are very welcome, and I hope you'll stick around! Thanks for the warm welcome! And the general broad conclusion that this body of work argues for is that some of these uses of matrix que suggest that we do want to syntactically represent certain ...
by priscianic
Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:14 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Syntax random
Replies: 195
Views: 118605

Re: Syntax random

(Hi everyone, I'm the friend akam alluded to a few posts up talking about weak crossover; just thought I'd pop in to the ZBB because this is something I know a little bit about!) I don't know about Kayne's book (I just saw it's a nice long one, 490 pp.), but e.g. a few times I've tried to find discu...