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- Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:20 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
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Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Yes, and there are some lexical differences between the audio and the subtitle, as you might have noticed.
- Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:55 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
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- Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:22 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
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Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I can only speak for the Indonesian side here. Standard Indonesian (SI) is similar enough to Standard Malay to allow Indonesians to read Malay texts (apart from a few false friends that cause a lot of laughter). The well-known children cartoon 'Upin dan ipin' which uses some kind of standardized col...
- Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:54 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Transitive form of intransitive verbs
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- Views: 3425
Re: Transitive form of intransitive verbs
Not really sure if there is a clear natlang precedent, but an applicative could also add an experiencer. "It blues me" would mean something like "It looks blue to me" or "I see it being blue."
- Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:09 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
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Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
You should have a look at Bantu tone languages. All have H (and L), a lot have additional HL and some allow LH. Alternatively, you could look at West African tone languages in general.
- Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:34 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
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Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
And Medieval Korean lost vowel harmony! Man, those Europeans really got around. You're being ironic, but Richard W's post is unironic and serious... You're all ignoring the null hypothesis, or "pulling a Taskubilos." There are three ways that a non-European language exposed to European la...
- Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:24 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2141648
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
And Medieval Korean lost vowel harmony! Man, those Europeans really got around. You're being ironic, but Richard W's post is unironic and serious... Also serious is Arabic gaining a high use of a preposition meaning "by X" with passive verbs (من قبل min qabli X, literally "from befor...
- Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:10 am
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: Another one for the sf fans
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3280
Re: Another one for the sf fans
tvtropes.org says: A typical plot involves the humans fighting the Proud Warrior Race Guys until one or the other stumbles upon the ruins of the Neglectful Precursor civilization and unleashes the evil third race. Then a bunch of people die, there are lots of cool explosions, and the first two races...
- Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:22 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2141648
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
At any rate, I’ve heard that at least Standard Indonesian is very heavily influenced by IE (especially Germanic) languages, but I’m not sure to what extent that’s true for Papua Indonesian. Do you have a source for that? I'm now doing advanced lessons of Bahasa Indonesia, and while there are lots o...
- Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:48 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Which unfinished project should I get back to?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 4953
- Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:09 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2141648
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
The Mee examples are much less clear than what I remembered. Page 64 for example shows a complex verbal construction (with strange glossing). It's not really clear if it involves auxiliary stacking. woo kei tai epi continue make do know Auxiliary verbs are described in section 8.1.2 starting on p. 7...
- Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:03 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2141648
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I recall that Mee has a do-support-like construction with tai which can be combined with other verbs. Of course you could debate the status as an auxillary, but I will probably find time to look at some examples tomorrow.
- Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:39 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2141648
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Papua Indonesian stacks at least two auxilliaries: Sa mo dapat pukul. I FUT PASS beat I will get beaten up. Maybe you can do more than that, idk. mo also means want and dapat also means get . But isn’t Papua Indonesia a creole? At any rate, I’ve heard that at least Standard Indonesian is very heavi...
- Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:48 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2141648
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Papua Indonesian stacks at least two auxilliaries:
Sa mo dapat pukul.
I FUT PASS beat
I will get beaten up.
Maybe you can do more than that, idk. mo also means want and dapat also means get. Just out of curiousity: which languages don't allow any stacking here?
Sa mo dapat pukul.
I FUT PASS beat
I will get beaten up.
Maybe you can do more than that, idk. mo also means want and dapat also means get. Just out of curiousity: which languages don't allow any stacking here?
- Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:15 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2141648
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
What exactly do you mean by having the same phonotactics?
- Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:39 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Bantu mutual intelligibility
- Replies: 11
- Views: 4550
Re: Bantu mutual intelligibility
If you are looking for closely related languages in contact you could look at Nguni languages in more detail.
Also, for me as a German, spoken Icelandic is gibberish.
Also, for me as a German, spoken Icelandic is gibberish.
- Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:06 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Bantu mutual intelligibility
- Replies: 11
- Views: 4550
Re: Bantu mutual intelligibility
Might be difficult because some areas where Bantu languages are spoken exhibit varying degrees of multilingualism.
- Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:15 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2141648
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Personally, I guess I'm fine with calling Das Auto von Mama a type of genitive, but I'd draw the line at using that term for Die Mama ihr Auto , since that's a dative construction, even though it fulfils the function of the genitive. I'd kind of wonder what else you'd call Das Auto von Mama , if no...
- Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:18 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2141648
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Usage is not uniform: Here is a random example from the Internet: "Nomen und Eigennamen ohne Artikel bilden den Genitiv mit von."
- Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:57 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4747
- Views: 2141648
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Coming back to the German genitive case: I think there is some terminological vagueness involved. The genitive case proper in German is part of the case paradigm and does not involve any analytic construction. Some people only use genitive to refer to this construction, e.g. das Haus der Mutter . So...