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by Creyeditor
Wed Mar 26, 2025 9:52 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: German questions
Replies: 247
Views: 153532

Re: German questions

One thing I noticed from listening to the song Nebel by Rammstein is that Till Lindemann pronounces the word geküsst as what sounds like gek [ø] sst to my ears. Note that while Till Lindemann sings in StG, I have heard things from Germans saying he pronounces it with a noticeable accent beyond mere...
by Creyeditor
Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:27 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: German questions
Replies: 247
Views: 153532

Re: German questions

One thing I noticed from listening to the song Nebel by Rammstein is that Till Lindemann pronounces the word geküsst as what sounds like gek [ø] sst to my ears. Note that while Till Lindemann sings in StG, I have heard things from Germans saying he pronounces it with a noticeable accent beyond mere...
by Creyeditor
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:14 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: German questions
Replies: 247
Views: 153532

Re: German questions

Looking through Wiktionary, there are also several (or many?) entries that include a note like "The modern consonantism is Central and Low German", see here for example: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dunkel#German . I guess one could reinterpret this as saying that the change was not comp...
by Creyeditor
Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:47 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: German questions
Replies: 247
Views: 153532

Re: German questions

I think part of the answer might be that German actually inherited some /d/s from PGmc *d. I tried to come up with an example but I could only think of the present participle ending -end (Wiktionary: "From Middle High German -ende, from Old High German -enti, -anti, from Proto-West Germanic *-a...
by Creyeditor
Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:29 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3516
Views: 3273388

Re: Conlang Random Thread

From what I am reading about autosegmental phonology, it seems there are some interesting possibilities for the tone system. If one tone can spread across multiple syllables then presumably tone changes can affect multiple syllables at once. Thus if the language has a rule dissimilating one high to...
by Creyeditor
Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:17 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: English questions
Replies: 1735
Views: 900415

Re: English questions

Slightly off topic: German children also stereotypically use [mi:jo:n] to refer to large numbers (at least in my personal experience), even though standard German has [mIljo:n] for million.
by Creyeditor
Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:04 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: What have you accomplished today?
Replies: 918
Views: 553192

Re: What have you accomplished today?

Japanese palatalizes before high vowels, right?
by Creyeditor
Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:58 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Beyond the SCA: strategies for improving conlanger productivity
Replies: 45
Views: 47821

Re: Beyond the SCA: strategies for improving conlanger productivity

AWKWORDOID : I would definitely need something for phonotactics similar to Awkwords. It would be great if the program could suggest licit roots/words so that I can just assign meanings. In a perfect world, this would not just be random words that follow my established phontactics but also follow so...
by Creyeditor
Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:45 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3516
Views: 3273388

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Reading up on autosegmental phonology really helped me in understanding tone.
by Creyeditor
Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:03 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3516
Views: 3273388

Re: Conlang Random Thread

In tonogenesis, what are some patterns for how syllables without a tone specifying consonant might develop? Say for instance final voiced stops induce low tone on a preceeding vowel and final voiceless stops induce high tone before final consonants are dropped. Is it plausible for syllables ending ...
by Creyeditor
Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:42 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: German questions
Replies: 247
Views: 153532

Re: German questions

Could it be that these are actually two suffixes? -tik from Ancient Greek tékhnē as in penultimate-stress Grammatik and -ik as in final-stress Physik, Kritik from Ancient Greek -ikos? I don't know if there is a real correlation though.
by Creyeditor
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:32 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Conlang Random Thread
Replies: 3516
Views: 3273388

Re: Conlang Random Thread

Btw, when counting dictionary entries, do you count the names of your conculture's deities (if they have any)? I would not count names, no. Not only names for deities, but also not names for countries, cities etc. If this is the case, then what makes morphologically complex languages favor restrict...
by Creyeditor
Sun Jan 05, 2025 5:30 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: German questions
Replies: 247
Views: 153532

Re: German questions

I think, I heard /faˈmiːli(j)ə/ before, especially when people try to speak very clearly, e.g. in order to make the spelling clear.
by Creyeditor
Sun Jan 05, 2025 4:26 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: German questions
Replies: 247
Views: 153532

Re: German questions

For me (and Wiktionary), <Familie> is /faˈmiːli̯ə/ Is there anything that means this can't be /faˈmiːljə/? I recently read (in a footnote somewhere) that some analyses of German phonology posit two phonemes that are phonetically close to [j] but the same author ignored the distinction in the rest o...
by Creyeditor
Sun Jan 05, 2025 3:25 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: German questions
Replies: 247
Views: 153532

Re: German questions

sehen, Seen [zeːn̩ ~ zeːən] Is Seen [zeːn̩ ~ zeːən] as well, or is it just sehen that could be [zeːən]? And what's with the syllabic nasal right after a vocalic nucleus? I know it could be pronounced, but it sounds like so much extra articulatory effort. When speaking, both are monosyllabic [ze:n] ...
by Creyeditor
Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:49 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: German questions
Replies: 247
Views: 153532

Re: German questions

In my northern regiolect of German, I neutralize the distinction in almost all contexts when speaking. They might be marginally phonemic for some people (even in the north) in Konjunktiv forms like "gäbe". When reading children's books to my son I find myself making the distinction as a sp...
by Creyeditor
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:57 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: English vowel systems and lexical sets
Replies: 54
Views: 40401

Re: English vowel systems and lexical sets

[...] https://i.ibb.co/F668PGW/gleep-glop-glorb.png I was recording this very quietly on a laptop's inbuilt microphone and got some very wacky results, so take this with a grain of salt. Or maybe take an entire shaker of salt with a grain of this. I hesitate to draw any conclusions from this but it...
by Creyeditor
Wed Dec 25, 2024 12:15 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Place names that are pronounced differently in only that specific place.
Replies: 86
Views: 75392

Re: Place names that are pronounced differently in only that specific place.

In Germany, there are places like Mecklenburg, which have /e:/ as the first selling even though Standard German spelling leads many people to believe it to be /E/. This actually is part of a more general pattern in Northern Germany, where <eck> is read as /e:k/ instead of expected /Ek/.
by Creyeditor
Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: German questions
Replies: 247
Views: 153532

Re: German questions

Maybe the sound changes affected function words and lexical words at different rates? Just guessing here, really.
by Creyeditor
Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:37 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: "Dubbing German", a somewhat weird variant of the German language
Replies: 17
Views: 20071

Re: "Dubbing German", a somewhat weird variant of the German language

Indonesian has a movie subtitle register which mixes literary language (using tak as a negation and cliticized pronouns as you do in love songs), Standard Indonesian (especially in syntax), and colloquial/slang words.