Zompist Bboard Again

hwhatting wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:47 amExcept if you believe the fringe "Celtic from the West" theory, Celtic was orginally spoken somewhere in Western Central Europe (Hallstatt culture), while it's now spoken on the Western fringe of Europe.

"Fringe" doesn't equate with wrong, my friend.

I came across the following comment on García de Diego's dictionary. García de Diego had a long and distinguished career as a linguist, publishing works in such fields as dialectology, Spanish and Latin grammar, Spanish literature, and etymology. He was elected to the Real Academia in 1926, and was...

The academic Indo-Europeanists have very good reasons to reconstruct Proto-Indo-European the way they do. Of course, the current model is not the final word, but it is the result of more than 200 years of work by hundreds of scholars, so they can't all be barking up the wrong tree all the time. IMH...

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:10 pmJust because members of a group can throw around words that refer to members of said group does not mean non-members of said group can do the same. And please, lay off the emojis for once.

Understood.

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:08 pm

Talskubilos wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:28 amNo wonder I'm not a faggot nor a conlanger.

That's not your word to throw around however you like. Consider this an official warning.

OK. Sorry if I offended you.

He doesn't know how many of us gays there are on this site, because he has half of us on mute. This is probably the most gay place on the Interwebs which is not dedicated to things gay in and of itself I've been at, something our friend here has managed to completely miss. To continue this off-topi...

Wait, so now we're talking about /sa.ˈlaː.mʕa.ˈlaj.kum/ as it would be pronounced by an Andalucian and not just heard by them? Not exactly. The question is about the interpretation of an expresion in a foreign language unknown to the speaker. For example, when I was a teenager, I used to intreprete...

And no matter how hard I try, I can't get from /sa.ˈlaː.mʕa.ˈlaj.kum/ to /seˈɾamaɾiˈkon/. These phrases simply sound nothing at all like each other to me. Think of an uneducated Spanish speaker, possibly from Southern Spain, and the fact Spanish has no final / -m / -nor any other labial-, so it's p...

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:20 am

Talskubilos wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:41 am The Arabic greeting (As-)Salam Alaikum can be misheard in Spanish as ¡Será maricón! 'Should (he) be a faggot?'.

By whom? Not this Spanish-speaking faggot.

Really? Are you gay?

The Arabic greeting (As-)Salam Alaikum can be misheard in Spanish as ¡Será maricón! 'Should (he) be a faggot?'.

keenir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:35 amAre you sure your ignore list is working?

Of course, but there's still the option to read the ignored posts.

keenir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:54 amOn whose ignore list? It can't be your own, because you replied to it.

I did it because he adressed to me.

Fair. On one hand, the etymology proposed by Rix would explain Latin consīderō, desīderō as being cognate to Greek ithús ~ euthús 'straight, just' and Gujarati sīdhũ 'straight(forward), upright', Sanskrit siddha 'acomplished', etc. from an IE root *seHdh- 'to acomplish a goal'. But IMHO there's no ...

Moose-tache wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:28 pmWhat are your thoughts on this, Talskubilos? Look at it. Go back and look at it again. What does it make you think about?

Moose-tache, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.

And finally, I don't think that Etruscan, whether it originated in Anatolia or Italy, was a member of this family. There are AFAIK no meaningful resemblances between Etruscan and the pre-Greek loanwords in Greek. Not really. Take for example Etruscan zamathi 'gold' and Greek ksanthós 'yellow' ~ kso...

I've read De Vaan's book on Leiden-Brill and once again he disaapointed (I think I already mentioned his is a rather mediocre work). To begin with, he links sīdus with the verbs consīderō 'to examine, to contemplate', desīderō 'to desire', which is a different etymology! It's not he who links them,...

What concerns the semantic connection between 'iron' and 'star', keep in mind that the first iron known to humans was from meteorites. The ancient Egyptians and Sumerians called the metal 'sky-metal'. Then there is this old chestnut Greek sidêros 'iron' vs. Latin sîdus (gen. sîderis ) 'star, conste...

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:04 amThe Germanic word for 'iron' is a loanword from Celtic. But what is the etymology of Celtic *îsarnon?

Warren Cowgill proposed a derivation *h₁esr-no- from *h₁esr '(flowing) blood', a semantic shift with parallels elsewhere.

All fair points. Greece is not far from the route from the steppe to Anatolia, so a related language may have ended up there. Yet, unless someone convincingly shows that those Pre-Greek words and names have IE etymologies, the "null hypothesis" is that the language in question is non-IE. ...

While I am not convinced, I can't say you were wrong. Maybe some Southern IE languages underwent a satem-like development, and as you say, there may have been several strata. This "Southern IE-satem" would be similar to Indo-Iranian and account for the results of *ḱerdh- in Basque and *k ...