Zompist Bboard Again

I have abandoned the notion that pots and genes say much about languages. I have realized that attempts to match Y-DNA haplogroups with language families are misguided. Yet, genetics and archaeology say something about human migrations , which are not irrelevant to archaeolinguistics because migran...

Not to the same degree than earlier (see below), but you still seem to have problems with the standard methods and results of historical linguistics. Note that I am a speculator myself, and have come up with hypotheses that go beyond the accepted state of the discipline, but I do not insist on them...

What I objected to was that you brandmarked someone who probably has much better knowledge than you as a "crackpot" while operating outside accepted historical linguistics yourself. Bengtson is AFAIK an accomplished academic linguist, which only shows that even accomplished scholars are n...

You are throwing stones while sitting in a glass house. Not that I thought Bengtson was right - he is IMHO probably dead wrong - but many people consider you a crackpot, Yes, I know you do. :) and don't forget that you endorsed a similar opinion just a few years ago. It would be better to say, &quo...

Umm, just mentioning Basque in the same sentence as Caucasian puts one just a step below those Basque monks... The thing is Bengtson is oblivious to criticism, either from Trask 25 years ago, or more recently from myself (see comments here ). This is why I consider him to be a **crackpot**. :mrgreen:

I've just found a recent article by John Bengtson (coauthored with Corinna Leschber):
Notes on some Pre-Greek words in relation to Euskaro-Caucasian (North Caucasian + Basque)

Of course, I think his Vasco-Caucasian etymologies are flawed.

keenir wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:48 amgiven how hard it is to find a lone sardine, I'm utterly not surprised it became a mass noun {my underlining the above}

Any suggestions for the etymology of the Latin word?

Travis B. wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:44 pmApparently most of the IE-like words found in Uralic are actually transparent loans and not cognates in the first place.

That's right!

Yes, but given the mild difficulties in actually identifying the residue of *d with *h₁ I prefer to talk about it as "dissimilatory loss of *d" rather than specifically *d > *h₁. In the framework of the PIE glottalic theory (e.g, Gamkrelidze-Ivanov), this would be explained as tˀ > ʔ .

I do not subscribe to this, but it would make much more sense to look at something like the truncated PIE formant /*(H)wi-/ for two (c.f. "twenty" and "apart/again") How does the std isolationist PIE model explain the relationship between the numeral '2', this formant and the ab...

Linguoboy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:26 amThat's not actually an answer to the question I asked. Michelin makes great tyres, but it doesn't follow from that that our word for "tyre" is a borrowing from French.

Actually, they had got also Ferrari.

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:49 amThank you. He indeed does mention Anatolian hi-conjugation verbs. But if his readings of the script are outdated, how much can we rely on it at all?

Very little at all. This is why I used "unfruitful".

keenir wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:30 amUm, if the Celts were the masters of making wheels, why wouldn't the Gauls borrow from the Celts?

But Gauls were Celts, weren't they?

Here is the full text of Wikander's 1966 article. I should mention his readings of the SW script are largely outdated by now.

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:23 amAlinei is a patent crackpot, worth at least 300 millinylands. Paleolithic continuity is falsified nonsense.

That's right, but this doesn't automatically disqualify his article.

2+3 Clusivity wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:39 pmCaucasian numeral '2' ... right.

To be more precise, Daghestanian '2'.

WeepingElf wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:21 amAnd for just these reasons, I consider T.'s post a non-answer.

From an external one, we've got Celtic loanwords into other IE languages such as Greek kanthós 'wheel rim'. What's the evidence for this being a Celtic borrowing? The sense of "wheel rim" could have developed from the earlier meaning of "corner of the eye" which is attested in t...

Can you point me at some research into that, even if you say it was "unfruitful"? Wikander, “Sur la langue des inscriptions sud-hispaniques,” Studia Linguistica 20, 1966, pp. 1-8. “Sur la langue des inscriptions sud-hispaniques” (1966) presents an analysis of funerary inscriptions from so...

That was me. It is just a hypothesis I am researching, and using in my main conlanging project; yet, the evidence is meagre, and especially the "related to Anatolian" part will be extremely hard to prove or disprove because for that, some old river names and loanwords in Italic, Celtic or...