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AI models are getting better at conlanging. The following text is a courtesy of Claude 3.5 Sonnet. Which language is this conlang descended from? On heste tid, sceap tat hæfde næn ull sæh hesta on feld. An drog swær wagn, oter bær micele byrten, and tridde bær mann swiftlice. Sceap cwæt to hestum: &...

When did the Grimm's Law take place?

Have you tried asking ChatGPT? I asked it and it did come up with one study: "Yes, you're referring to the research on ancient DNA that suggests multiple migrations from the Near East to North Africa. Studies have shown genetic connections between populations in these regions during different p...

Znex, are you working on Mercian, the North Germanic language with even more Old English influence?

Where does Swedish-Norwegian-Danish -en definite article come from?

When did do support first appear in English?

Plenty of divergent dialects made it to North America in large numbers. Where I grew up, the largest ethnic group was "Scotch Irish," meaning there would have been a time when everyone in the Appalachians sounded like this child . The issue is that those divergent dialects never made up t...

I'm surprised there is enough stuff about conlanging out there that ChatGPT actually knows about it :) I've said it before in the AI thread... but beyond the 'cool toy' aspect (which I mean, it is) I don't think generative AI is terribly useful. I'm very skeptical about claims that it's going to wr...

Has any of you guys tried to use AI in making conlangs? I am using Gemini and I was quite surprised that it can already do quite a lot - like coming up with a plausible list of sound changes or plausible semantic shifts for words. It is still lacking in many areas but I guess that is going to improv...

Travis B. wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 9:57 am

Otto Kretschmer wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 7:01 am Is there a set date when English language became well, English instead of being just Proto West Germanic?

You do know there is no good answer for that.

Now I know, thanks

Wiki lists 600 AD as the beginning of Old English period though.

Is there a set date when English language became well, English instead of being just Proto West Germanic?

When do you guys think will AI be able to create fully fledged conlangs? I asked both Gemini and ChatGPT to create conlangs for me and while both were able to come up with a reasonably good list of sound changes, the overall result was not what I asked for (I asked for a descendant of Middle English...

Didn't Yola and Fingalian also have Irish influence in phonology due to long standing contact with Irish?

https://youtu.be/NpKbY3P860o?si=7u0hWFp71Ra9zzYH

Anyone ever wondered (in conlanging terms) what English might have looked like if the Norman conquest had exerted more influence on English phonology and grammar but less on vocabulary?

I wonder - how would the world look like if humans could only see in black and white? Would the development of civilization be hindered in any way? I guess at least initially there might be issues with distinguishing ripe fruits from unripe ones although humans might develop for example a better sen...

I am not sure how far 17th or 18th century dialects were from Standard English but I imagine it was pretty far away. If A. Z. Foreman's reconstructions ( an example ) are any indication it is perhaps less different than you might think. Once you go pre-GVS ( Old , Middle ) is where you start really...

To illustrate my point, check out this for example https://youtu.be/xhvkrIcUNy8?si=P2wSyct95TZqDJbT For me it's already a separate language. I am not sure how far 17th or 18th century dialects were from Standard English but I imagine it was pretty far away. Now all you need to do is to somehow 1. Ma...

What historical circumstances could lead to American English developing towards a separate language, at least as different from British English as Afrikaans from Dutch? In our world the high literacy rate of the colonists (aided by the printing press) and constant contact with Britain meant that bot...

How did the Chancery Standard (the basis for modern Standard English) come into being? Was it based on some specific dialect, spoken in a specific region?

We do actually have a North Germanic conlang with Old English influence - check out the Conlang Fluency Thread.

Has anyone done something the other way around i.e. Old English with substantial Old Norse influence? Would be nice to see such a conlang!