Zompist Bboard Again

If it's still unfinished in mid June, I'd be happy to have a go, but I'm too busy up until then. Edit: To be clear, yes, that is June, and I know it's a lokg time away. I'm thinking of me in this scenario more a last resort¹ than a proper offer. ¹ I will almost certainly have the time to translate t...

"of t en" is a recent spelling pronunciation. Early 20th-century dictionaries record only the /ˈɔfən/ pronunciation. The spelling pronunciation seems to have become more popular over the span of my lifetime, but that could simply be the recency illusion. I am with Linguoboy here. The hist...

Raphael wrote: ↑Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:19 am Is the "t" in "often" silent? I think I learned it that way long ago, but now I've seen videos where people pronounce it.

It can be either. I don't know if it is loss in some places, or loss everywhere and then a spelling pronunciation.

Das gefällt mir gut, danke.


Edit: there was definitely not any sort of typo in this originally

It works!

I managed to install ghcup tonight, and tried to recompile it. I got a lot of /usr/bin/ld.gold: error: cannot find -lgmp collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status `gcc' failed in phase `Linker'. (Exit code: 1) As well as warnings that ~ would soon cause an error, that memset ans memcpy is deprecat...

I managed to install ghcup tonight, and tried to recompile it. I got a lot of /usr/bin/ld.gold: error: cannot find -lgmp collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status `gcc' failed in phase `Linker'. (Exit code: 1) As well as warnings that ~ would soon cause an error, that memset ans memcpy is deprecate...

Wait… this makes me realise… I thought I recommended GHCup already. But looks like I didn’t — no wonder Lērisama is having problems with painfully old GHC versions. Lērisama, if you’re not already using GHCup, clean out your existing Haskell installation completely and reinstall it via GHCup. It sh...

Wait, you got seats ? :D I used to work near one of the last stops on the RER B; it was okay but I can't say I miss it. The real annoyance is having to take it to get to the airport. But getting to Charles de Gaulle airport is an unnecessarily painful experience, no matter how you get there. I find...

It claims to be The Glorious Glasgow Haskell Compilation System, version 9.0.2

zompist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:03 pm As you can guess, it's bad to have a whole continent with no worked-out languages.

Does this mean we get a Palthuk language next? I've always been curious about Palthuknen¹.

¹ Although that doesn't mean I can spell it without checking

I tried that and got the following error: cli-pb/Main.hs:40:13 error: • Variable not in scope asum :: [Parser ParadigmInput] -> Parser ParadigmInput • Perhaps you meant one of these: 'sum' (imported from prelude), 'asumC' (imported from Conduit) Perhaps you want to add 'asum' to the import list in t...

In happy news, I increased the size of the swap file and left it over night, and it compiled. I do have a question now though: Is it possible to skip building the gui? I don't particularly feel like going through another few steps, and I don't particularly want it. I could probably find this out mys...

I agree with bradrn, but I'd like to more explicitly note that the cognates are swapped for me: the prototypical elf is (1)¹ but the prototypical fairy is (2). Faerie is a word bad modern² fantasy novels use for (1), especially when the author wants to emphasise their danger to humans³ ¹ Although no...

bradrn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:01 am Decisions, decisions… I mean, I think it unlikely that I wouldn’t take this offer, but I first want to be as sure as possible that it will all work out well.

Congratulations on the offer, and good luck, whatever you choose.

It turns out I really didn't describe this well sorry: The voiced stops & fricatives are in free variation (first post edited to reflect) The relationship between [ɰ̃] and [ʁ̃ɴ] isn't the clearest, and I should have explained it better: word internally, only [ɰ̃] is found, but word finally [ʁ̃ɴ]...

*Rounding of vowels after bilabials

[ɜʈʂʙ̆βɔ]
eh₂tre
‘mansion, particularly one with a pool; public bathhouse’

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*Voicing lost, lowering the tone of the following vowel

[ta˧˩]
dâ
‘milkfish, any smoked fish’

The current romanisation for this is based on another language with it's own historically minded interesting choices [m n̪ ɲ ŋ] ⟨m n n ng⟩ [p t k] ⟨p t k⟩ [ɸ s̪ s̠ h] ⟨f s s h⟩ [b d ɡ] ⟨b d g⟩ [β ð z̠ ɣ] ⟨b d z g⟩ [j j̃ ɪ̯ ɪ̯̃ ʟ ʟ̃ ɰ ɰ̃ ʁ̃ɴ] ⟨j j e e l l r r rn⟩ [j̊ ʟ̥] ⟨j l⟩ [i ĩ ɨ ɨ̃ ʉ ʉ̃ u ũ] ⟨i ...

Here is something gleb spat out a year or so ago, with heavily modified allophony. I've called it [s̠ɨɰːʲ˦˥]. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to work out the phonemic transcription for that Phonemically, it's this: /p t k/ /j ʟ/ /i ɨ u/ /ɛ ã ɔ/ Each word has either high or low register¹ and...

Verscharfung

[ˈt͡ɕɛːk]
ceehe
‘disobedience, flagrant insubordination’

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Assimilation

[ʐɖ͡ʐɻæ]
sijra
‘lake, pool’
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