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- Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:57 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4753
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Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
I was thinking about how, for me, the acceptability of the definite article before a language name varies by context. "You must read Virgil in the original Latin" and " ambulance derives from the Latin ambulāre " both sound fine to me, but "you must read Virgil in the Latin&...
- Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:41 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
- Replies: 1010
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Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
げぃこぅよぅ /ɣekojo/ Consonants: (with the vowel /a/) /(p) t k/ <ぱ た か> /ᵐb ⁿd ᶮdʒ ᵑg/ <んば んだ んじゃ んが> /m n ɲ ŋ/ <ま な にゃ んな> /ɾ~ɾ̥~r~ɹ~l/ <ら> /ɸ~β~f~v ð ʃ ɣ h/ <ば だ しゃ が は> /w j/ <わ・うぁ や> Vowels: /i e ɛ u o ɔ a/ +length <い えぃ え う おぅ お あ> <いい ええぃ ええ うう おおぅ おお ああ> Sample text /neᵑgomoɣaneɾa kaɾoɣanɔ || kaɾ...
- Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:52 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 841786
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
As I've mentioned here before, a lot of Japanese speakers seem to have k > q /_a at least in certain informal contexts
edit: also apparently Multicultural London English
edit: also apparently Multicultural London English
- Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:18 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 841786
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
According to wikipedia, some Somali dialects reflect standard /q/ as /x/. It looks like this claim comes from Saeed (1993), which I don't have access to, but the article cites another paper, Gabbard (2010), which claims that q > ʁ / V_V allophonically. From there you could easily get to [h]. Also, a...
- Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:49 am
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
- Replies: 4753
- Views: 2268472
Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Does anyone know of any papers on alternation of adpositions between pre- and postpositions? When I say 'alternation' I mean that very broadly, either diachronically or synchronically.
- Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:40 am
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: What are you reading, watching and listening to? - All languages
- Replies: 1001
- Views: 3657324
Re: What are you reading, watching and listening to? - All languages
As always, the best album by one of my favorites bands: Yet-Kha - Yenisei Punk . I've also been listening to a bunch of ryūkōka lately, especially this song, 上海の波止場 by Isao Hayashi. edit: something is wrong with the bbcode for these links but I'm not sure how to fix it Fixed. You don't put the link...
- Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:45 pm
- Forum: Ephemera
- Topic: What are you reading, watching and listening to? - All languages
- Replies: 1001
- Views: 3657324
Re: What are you reading, watching and listening to? - All languages
As always, the best album by one of my favorites bands: Yet-Kha - Yenisei Punk. I've also been listening to a bunch of ryūkōka lately, especially this song, 上海の波止場 by Isao Hayashi.
edit: something is wrong with the bbcode for these links but I'm not sure how to fix it
edit: something is wrong with the bbcode for these links but I'm not sure how to fix it
- Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:33 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 841786
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
I'm starting with an inventory of sibilants (fricatives and affricates) that has a three way contrast between alveolar, retroflex, and alveolo-palatal series. What are some interesting things I can do with the alveolo-palatals to get rid of them, without just merging them unilaterally into one of th...
- Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:14 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 841786
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
In an inventory that already has /z ʒ ʑ/, how plausible does dʒ dʑ > ʒ ʑ without dz > z look?
- Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:10 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
- Replies: 1010
- Views: 499614
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Min Nan with a (fairly nonsensical) Greco-Romance flair: Initials /p pʰ b t tʰ ts tsʰ k kʰ g/ <b p mb d t nd gi~g ci~c g~gh c~ch ng> /m n ŋ/ <m n gn~gnh> /s dz~z h̃ h/ <s z j> /l/ <l> Where romanizations are given in pairs, the latter is used before <i e>, and the former is used elsewhere. Finals (r...
- Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:33 pm
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 841786
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Does any language (that allows word final consonants) delete vowels in final syllables across the board, regardless of whether the syllable is open or closed?
- Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:30 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
- Replies: 1010
- Views: 499614
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
/ɹ ɹʲ~j l ɣ ʕ ɦ/ Any particular reason why /ɣ/ is listed with the approximants? (Morpho)phonologically it behaves like one, and is historically derived from one. It's phonologically basically /ɰ/. EDIT: Also, another question: will the main allophone of /ɹʲ~j/ be /ɹʲ/ or /j/? I'm not quite sure yet...
- Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:30 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
- Replies: 1010
- Views: 499614
Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
From an actual conlang of mine (with working title "west island liturgical"), instead of just a phonological sketch. I really can't figure out a good way to romanize it though. /p t tʲ tˤ tɬ tʃ k q ʔ/ /f s sʲ sˤ ɬ x ħ/ /ɹ ɹʲ~j l ɣ ʕ ɦ/ /m n nʲ nˤ/ /i iː ɨ uː/ /ɪɛ o ʊɔ/ /a aː/ /ɨ˞ ɨ˞ː a˞ a˞...
- Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:19 pm
- Forum: Languages
- Topic: Different word categories to express a concept
- Replies: 30
- Views: 32993
Re: Different word categories to express a concept
On the theme of alternate ways to express possession, Japanese does it with an intransitive verb meaning "to exist" (maybe that barely counts as a different word category, but still): Gorō wa boushi ga aru Gorō TOP hat NOM exist.IPFV "Gorō has a hat" Also, a number of things that...
- Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:23 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 841786
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Well that's a clever notation.Nortaneous wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:59 pm 3a) nasal + plosive sequences coalesce into nasals at the plosive's POA (so *nt *nd > *nt̪ *nd > n̪ n)
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- Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:56 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 841786
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
I have a rule where phonation spreads forwards in consonant clusters for all clusters, e.g. akda→akta, iɹkə→iɹgə. Is this plausible? If so, then what should happen to consonants like /ʔ/, /ɹ/, /m/, /l/, which may not have a voiced or voiceless counterpart in the language? (I know that I could just ...
- Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:31 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 841786
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
How plausible is debuccalization of voiceless coda stops to [ʔ] only in post-vocalic position? So [pot] > [poʔ] but [post] > [post].
- Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:26 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 841786
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
I'm particularly curious how the neutral tones interact with tone persistence, if present. What’s ‘tone persistence’? I looked it up and couldn’t find anything… Tone persistence is when tones exhibit the properties of independent phonological units, not bound to particular syllables. For example, y...
- Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:44 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 841786
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Can anyone recommend any reading on tone systems where a large number (perhaps the majority) of syllables are neutral tone? I think such systems exist. I'm particularly curious how the neutral tones interact with tone persistence, if present.
- Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:20 am
- Forum: Conlangery
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 841786
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Suppose a language has rhythmic stress, and unfooted syllables are fairly common. Is there any tendency for vowels in the weak syllable of a foot to reduce more than do vowels in unfooted syllables? To reduce less? Could foot-type make a difference? (My thought is that with iambic feet you relative...