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by dɮ the phoneme
Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:57 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4753
Views: 2268472

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

I was thinking about how, for me, the acceptability of the definite article before a language name varies by context. "You must read Virgil in the original Latin" and " ambulance derives from the Latin ambulāre " both sound fine to me, but "you must read Virgil in the Latin&...
by dɮ the phoneme
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:41 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 1010
Views: 499614

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

げぃこぅよぅ /ɣekojo/ Consonants: (with the vowel /a/) /(p) t k/ <ぱ た か> /ᵐb ⁿd ᶮdʒ ᵑg/ <んば んだ んじゃ んが> /m n ɲ ŋ/ <ま な にゃ んな> /ɾ~ɾ̥~r~ɹ~l/ <ら> /ɸ~β~f~v ð ʃ ɣ h/ <ば だ しゃ が は> /w j/ <わ・うぁ や> Vowels: /i e ɛ u o ɔ a/ +length <い えぃ え う おぅ お あ> <いい ええぃ ええ うう おおぅ おお ああ> Sample text /neᵑgomoɣaneɾa kaɾoɣanɔ || kaɾ...
by dɮ the phoneme
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:52 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841786

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

As I've mentioned here before, a lot of Japanese speakers seem to have k > q /_a at least in certain informal contexts

edit: also apparently Multicultural London English
by dɮ the phoneme
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:18 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841786

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

According to wikipedia, some Somali dialects reflect standard /q/ as /x/. It looks like this claim comes from Saeed (1993), which I don't have access to, but the article cites another paper, Gabbard (2010), which claims that q > ʁ / V_V allophonically. From there you could easily get to [h]. Also, a...
by dɮ the phoneme
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:49 am
Forum: Languages
Topic: Linguistic Miscellany Thread
Replies: 4753
Views: 2268472

Re: Linguistic Miscellany Thread

Does anyone know of any papers on alternation of adpositions between pre- and postpositions? When I say 'alternation' I mean that very broadly, either diachronically or synchronically.
by dɮ the phoneme
Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:40 am
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: What are you reading, watching and listening to? - All languages
Replies: 1001
Views: 3657324

Re: What are you reading, watching and listening to? - All languages

As always, the best album by one of my favorites bands: Yet-Kha - Yenisei Punk . I've also been listening to a bunch of ryūkōka lately, especially this song, 上海の波止場 by Isao Hayashi. edit: something is wrong with the bbcode for these links but I'm not sure how to fix it Fixed. You don't put the link...
by dɮ the phoneme
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:45 pm
Forum: Ephemera
Topic: What are you reading, watching and listening to? - All languages
Replies: 1001
Views: 3657324

Re: What are you reading, watching and listening to? - All languages

As always, the best album by one of my favorites bands: Yet-Kha - Yenisei Punk. I've also been listening to a bunch of ryūkōka lately, especially this song, 上海の波止場 by Isao Hayashi.

edit: something is wrong with the bbcode for these links but I'm not sure how to fix it
by dɮ the phoneme
Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:33 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841786

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I'm starting with an inventory of sibilants (fricatives and affricates) that has a three way contrast between alveolar, retroflex, and alveolo-palatal series. What are some interesting things I can do with the alveolo-palatals to get rid of them, without just merging them unilaterally into one of th...
by dɮ the phoneme
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841786

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

In an inventory that already has /z ʒ ʑ/, how plausible does dʒ dʑ > ʒ ʑ without dz > z look?
by dɮ the phoneme
Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 1010
Views: 499614

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

Min Nan with a (fairly nonsensical) Greco-Romance flair: Initials /p pʰ b t tʰ ts tsʰ k kʰ g/ <b p mb d t nd gi~g ci~c g~gh c~ch ng> /m n ŋ/ <m n gn~gnh> /s dz~z h̃ h/ <s z j> /l/ <l> Where romanizations are given in pairs, the latter is used before <i e>, and the former is used elsewhere. Finals (r...
by dɮ the phoneme
Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841786

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Does any language (that allows word final consonants) delete vowels in final syllables across the board, regardless of whether the syllable is open or closed?
by dɮ the phoneme
Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:30 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 1010
Views: 499614

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

/ɹ ɹʲ~j l ɣ ʕ ɦ/ Any particular reason why /ɣ/ is listed with the approximants? (Morpho)phonologically it behaves like one, and is historically derived from one. It's phonologically basically /ɰ/. EDIT: Also, another question: will the main allophone of /ɹʲ~j/ be /ɹʲ/ or /j/? I'm not quite sure yet...
by dɮ the phoneme
Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:30 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0
Replies: 1010
Views: 499614

Re: Romanization Challenge Thread v2.0

From an actual conlang of mine (with working title "west island liturgical"), instead of just a phonological sketch. I really can't figure out a good way to romanize it though. /p t tʲ tˤ tɬ tʃ k q ʔ/ /f s sʲ sˤ ɬ x ħ/ /ɹ ɹʲ~j l ɣ ʕ ɦ/ /m n nʲ nˤ/ /i iː ɨ uː/ /ɪɛ o ʊɔ/ /a aː/ /ɨ˞ ɨ˞ː a˞ a˞...
by dɮ the phoneme
Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:19 pm
Forum: Languages
Topic: Different word categories to express a concept
Replies: 30
Views: 32993

Re: Different word categories to express a concept

On the theme of alternate ways to express possession, Japanese does it with an intransitive verb meaning "to exist" (maybe that barely counts as a different word category, but still): Gorō wa boushi ga aru Gorō TOP hat NOM exist.IPFV "Gorō has a hat" Also, a number of things that...
by dɮ the phoneme
Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:23 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841786

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Nortaneous wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:10 pm NP > M
Nortaneous wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:59 pm 3a) nasal + plosive sequences coalesce into nasals at the plosive's POA (so *nt *nd > *nt̪ *nd > n̪ n)
Well that's a clever notation. :lol: I don't know that I've ever seen that before.
by dɮ the phoneme
Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:56 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841786

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I have a rule where phonation spreads forwards in consonant clusters for all clusters, e.g. akda→akta, iɹkə→iɹgə. Is this plausible? If so, then what should happen to consonants like /ʔ/, /ɹ/, /m/, /l/, which may not have a voiced or voiceless counterpart in the language? (I know that I could just ...
by dɮ the phoneme
Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:31 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841786

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

How plausible is debuccalization of voiceless coda stops to [ʔ] only in post-vocalic position? So [pot] > [poʔ] but [post] > [post].
by dɮ the phoneme
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:26 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841786

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I'm particularly curious how the neutral tones interact with tone persistence, if present. What’s ‘tone persistence’? I looked it up and couldn’t find anything… Tone persistence is when tones exhibit the properties of independent phonological units, not bound to particular syllables. For example, y...
by dɮ the phoneme
Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:44 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841786

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Can anyone recommend any reading on tone systems where a large number (perhaps the majority) of syllables are neutral tone? I think such systems exist. I'm particularly curious how the neutral tones interact with tone persistence, if present.
by dɮ the phoneme
Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:20 am
Forum: Conlangery
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 1333
Views: 841786

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Suppose a language has rhythmic stress, and unfooted syllables are fairly common. Is there any tendency for vowels in the weak syllable of a foot to reduce more than do vowels in unfooted syllables? To reduce less? Could foot-type make a difference? (My thought is that with iambic feet you relative...