Zompist Bboard Again

In spoken Japanese I've sometimes heard something like [ḵ] or maybe even [q] for /k/. It's at best sporadic, but it still seems like an odd unconditional shift. Is it unconditional? Descriptions of Japanese that I've read mention extensive conditioned allophony between palatalized and non-palataliz...

In spoken Japanese I've sometimes heard something like [ḵ] or maybe even [q] for /k/. It's at best sporadic, but it still seems like an odd unconditional shift.

Could voiced obstruents in the coda take on breathy voice, then spread it to a preceding vowel?

I'm trying to get a nominative-accusative system out of a split-ergative one, where the split is based on an animacy hierarchy. How might that occur?

Can I say thay r-coloured vowels, after /ɻ/ becomes /j/, become Vɪ̯ everywhere except word-finally, where they become jV instead? Maybe just break the r-coloured vowels into ɻV sequences word-finally beforehand? I would believe this, at least by way of ɻ > ɹ > j. And I have [fɹʷənətʃʷɚ] for 'furnit...

Pabappa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:10 pm I'm still a bit cautious though about a language with tone contrasts in syllables that end in a cluster.

At least Haida does it IIRC, as well as Gaahmg appearently.

I think nasals could devoice allophonically and thus permit the shift. Would this really be a necessary precondition? Since nasals are voiced, they can (phonetically) show tone distinctions themselves, so on second thought it might not matter whether the tone-conditionaing elements directly abut th...

More tonogenesis related questions: in another language I'm planing on having glottalized, voiceless, and voiced obstruent codas turn into high, mid, and low tones respectivelty, with the coda consonants then merging as voiceless. Is this realistic? Would this be able to apply through other consonan...

s → h → ᴸ certainly works. If there's a problem with compensatorily-lengthening a short vowel but not a long one, then I don't know what it is. My concern is, what how is tone affected when [s] deletes from a syllable which is already bimoraic without it? I'm trying to achieve something like the fo...

I'm starting with a two-tone system, where tones are assigned to morae rather than syllables (i.e. basically what Navajo does), and I want to turn coda [s] into tone. I'm thinking something like Vᵀs > Vːᵀᴸ (where T is either tone, and L is of course low tone). Basically coda [s] turns into a floatin...

How does NP (> ⁿB) > B look?

edit: oh wait, doesn't Greek have this?

Ok, 6:00pm on 5/10 it is. This is a great idea by the way.

Vijay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 9:35 pm Lhasa Tibetan:

ཁམ /kʰam/ [kʰám] 'piece'
ཁམས་ /kʰams/ [kʰâm] 'Kham'
ལྷ་ས /l̥asa/ [l̥á.sə] 'Lhasa'

Ah, I meant post-vocalically in the coda. i.e. [taps] > [tâp] but [tasp] > [tāsp]. Does this happen in Tibetan at all?

Is there precedent for coda consonants resulting in tone when they follow another consonant, but (the same consonants) being maintained post-vocalically?

/ɛŋglɪʃ/ 英的 (Wʸ 是ᵈ I even 思 þˢ 是 a 好 思a?) /p b t d tʃ dʒ k g/ /f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ (x) h/ /m n ŋ/ /l ɹ j w/ /i ɪ u ʊ eɪ ə oʊ ɛ ʌ ɔ æ ɑ aɪ aʊ ɔɪ/ or something /lʊk, ɛvribədi noʊz thət ɛŋglɪʃ nidz sʌm sɪriəs ɔɹθəgɹæfɪk rəfɔɹm, bʌt ðə θɪŋ aɪ jʌst kænt gɛt ɑn bɔɹd wɪð ɪz ðæt ɛvribədi wɑnts ɪt tə bi mɔɹ fəni...

Akangka wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:15 pm 日本人誰かいます か？ 一つ 質問を聞いても よろしい でしょう か？ この 文章 は 丁寧 です か？
Is there any Japanese people here? Can I ask a question? Is this sentence polite?

実は日本人じゃないが、私にとって丁寧そうだ。
I'm not Japanese but, from my perspective, it does look polite.

Йиҁ нвньуңбм гвэңв к бйиҥ ткий ҁей мдӀухңв ҳнеңҳ тиҥ. Кҁухңвс дӀил н ҁей пӀэн бӀиңк, йвҥӀваңҳ ҁей ньрйар гай мнньӀаҳ. йиҥ лйиңн сей к пкйахм ҁвиг йиңн сей ҁмӀухҳ ннӀай тсэңҳ ҁссийс. The cyrillic alphabet does not lend itself well for this language. нвньуңбм? :o :? Crap, it should read йвньуңбм. You...

Here's a whole dissertation on hiatus resolution: Casali (1996) [pdf] . That might give you some concrete ideas. It's very comprehensive, with lots of information on which vowel is deleted, how often it happens, vowel coalescence, etc. Ah, thanks, that looks quite interesting! I should have specifi...

spine, backbone:
Proto-Western Yonutian -sälcövö̱- [-sæltʃɵvøː-] (inan.), with short stem -sälcövå- [-sæltʃøvɔ-], from Proto-Yonutian -salke-boha- (inan.) lit. 'bone-back'.

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How reasonable is a change that deletes unstressed vowels / C1_C2, where C1 is more sonorant than C2? I see no problems with that. ['kanad] > ['kand], why not? It will also give things like [ra'ka] > [rka] without [ka'ra] > [kra], the latter of which seems like perhaps the more natural developement.