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mèþru wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:28 pm this looks so add to me as a native Hebrew speaker I love it

I've been wondering how it would look/sound to a Hebrew speaker.

schedule [ˈskɛʤjʊɫ] ([ˈskɛʤjuɫ] in careful speech)

I've heard a number of pronunciations for <oe> in German-derived names here in the States: /ɚ/ (Goethe, Goebbels), /ei/ (Boehner), /ɛ/ (a friend whose surname is Boecke, which she pronounces homophonous with Becky), and a spelling pronunciation of /ou/.

ʾal matēm daborti ʾīs katobti zē seper.
NEG ever say-1s that write-1s this inscription

I never said (i.e., forgot to say) that I wrote this post.

Numbers 1-10, masculine then feminine: 01 ʾeḥḥad / ʾeḥḥat [ʔɛħˈħæd̪ ʔɛħˈħæt̪ʰ] 02 snēm / stēm [ˈs̪n̪eːm ˈs̪t̪ʰeːm] 03 silūst / silūs [s̪iˈl̪uːs̪t̪ʰ s̪iˈl̪uːs̪] 04 ʾerbaʿt / ʾerbaʿ [ʔɛr̺ˈbɑʕt̪ʰ ʔɛr̺ˈbɑʕ] 05 ḥemist / ḥims [ħəˈmis̪t̪ʰ ˈħims̪] 06 sist / ses [ˈs̪is̪t̪ʰ ˈs̪es̪] 07 sebaʿt / sebaʿ [s̪əˈbɑʕt...

Ah, hadn't heard that term before.

Herb is a name, but I suspect the loss of /h/ in AmE that word is just due to chance, not due to confusion with the name. herb with an /h/ was college slang in the 90s, and UD claims it may have originated at Burger King: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3d_uUNuLWc But the evidence is pretty weak. ...

Speaking of H-dropping, though, I started wondering if there's any dialect/accent with all of H-dropping, intrusive /r/, trap-strut merger, fronting of /a/ and reduction of unstressed vowels to schwa. I know it's probably really unlikely for all of those features to coexist in a single dialect/acce...

mèþru wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:05 am Is this the same timeline as your previous Punic conlang?

Sort of but not exactly: I originally allowed Carthage to fall per our timeline but had a colony in the Canaries survive; I modified it so that Carthage survived into the Early Middle Ages and moved Medieval Punic to mainland Iberia.

Pabappa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:05 pm I meant the first u. "Oovular", I only saw it because it was written "an uvular stop". Probably he got the second u still correct.

Are you sure the person wasn't British? British style uses "an" before /h/ and words written with a vowel but pronounced with /j/.

Travis B. wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:46 pm Some people here have restored /ju/, or shall I say, [i̯ʉ] or even [i̯y] in words like new and stupid through fronting and breaking of /i/ after a coronal.

I have heard that pronunciation of stupid before.

jal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:30 pm

Zaarin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:08 pmNo, generally we only yod-drop after a palatalized /t d k g s z/.

I recall it being dropped in "new" as well?

...I forgot some dialects have one there. Maybe more generally we drop them after coronals (+ palatalized k g)?

jal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:03 pm

Pabappa wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:25 pmme too.

Ditto. Same for velum.

I've always heard short /e/ in velum, and Wiktionary lists both pronunciations.

uvular without the /j/.

Isn't that a generic American thing?


JAL

No, generally we only yod-drop after a palatalized /t d k g s z/.

Pabappa wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:39 pm

Zaarin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:37 am I've heard /ei/ in lapis; it made me cringe.

my mistake, though I've never said it out loud. I only know it from a video game and , as lapis lazuli, the Bible. Wiktionary as of yet does not list lapis as an English word.

Yes, for me lapis is short for lapis lazuli.

Historical Context When the Second Punic War ended with a stalemate and the Treaty of Cannae, the Mediterranean was divided into Roman northeast and Carthaginian southwest, a state of affairs that would endure for the remainder of antiquity. Carthage controlled North Africa west of Egypt, southern ...

I was under the impression that babble < Babel was a folk etymology. Either way, I pronounced both with /æ/ and have never heard either with /ei/ personally. In the strict sense of the term, /e:/ > /æ/ in Babel would be folk etymology, since it represents an alteration in the phonetic development o...

How about Babel ? I say /'bei.bəl/, but apparently the majority pronunciation, even as used by Alex Trebek, is to merge it with "babble" as something like /'bæ.bəl/. I mean, Babel is the etymon of babble , isn't it? I have /æ/ in Babel but /e:/ in Babelfish (which is like a brand name to ...

alice wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:55 pm Nobody yet has mentioned "somewhat" as a rather daffy alternative to "something".

...That's not what "somewhat" means in my dialect. For me, "somewhat" is a synonym to "a little bit, slightly, sort of, etc."

mèþru wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:29 pm Since the Shire was based on the West Midlands, I think he meant some rural West Midlands dialect pronunciation

Gandalf's name is said to come from Men of the Northlands, like Dale or Rhovanion, though, not from the Shire. Perhaps that's how Hobbits would pronounce it, though.

/m n̻ ɲ/ m n ñ /p b t̻ d̻ k g ʔ/ p b t d k g q /ɸ β s̻ z̻ h/ f v s z h /ɾ̻/ r /l̻ j/ l j /i ɨ u e o a/ i y u e o a There was an allophone rule that any vowel before a glottal stop becomes creaky voiced. Ditch /ɸ β/ and pick one liquid and this language would be right at home in the Great Basin, Pla...