Aposteriori idea exchange

[bradrn]

I have had a very bad day today (but I am already recovering now, though I need a quiet weekend to get into balance again).

Ah, my sympathies. It happens… hope you get the peace and quiet and that it helps.

[WeepingElf]

I’m really surprised to hear this. I feel like just a couple of days ago you were talking about them as normal?

It has to do more with my mood swings than with internal plausibility issues. I have had a very bad day today (but I am already recovering now, though I need a quiet weekend to get into balance again). The Elven civilization stretches the limits of the historically plausible (which it would do in any place of the world), though it actually makes some things make sense. And as for the language, the Proto-Hesperic language of the Bell Beaker people from which Old Albic descends may have been influenced by a Para-Kartvelian substratum spoken by the Neolithic farmers of Central Europe, who seem to have been genetically similar to modern Georgians, so a Para-Kartvelian language (or one just typologically similar to Kartvelian) in Neolithic Central Europe is not entirely implausible.

What is so unique about their civilization?

Their degree of enlightenment, which seems anachronistic about 600 BC (though the ideas shone up already back then, but were not put into practice). They manage to establish a democracy, even with women suffrage and without slavery, unlike ancient Athens; also an economic democracy - the means of production are owned by the people who work with them, either individually (the classic model of the freeholder or self-employed artisan) or collectively (for larger enterprises such as ships, where the ship is collectively owned by the crew, with an elected captain), and all that.

[þeprussianfrog]

I have had a very bad day today (but I am already recovering now, though I need a quiet weekend to get into balance again).

I'm sorry about that. Hope you recover soon!

[WeepingElf]

I have had a very bad day today (but I am already recovering now, though I need a quiet weekend to get into balance again).

Ah, my sympathies. It happens… hope you get the peace and quiet and that it helps.

I'm sorry about that. Hope you recover soon!

Thank you both. I already feel a bit better now. And I think I shall carry on with the Elvenpath, the Old Albic language and all that!

[þeprussianfrog]

It has to do more with my mood swings than with internal plausibility issues. I have had a very bad day today (but I am already recovering now, though I need a quiet weekend to get into balance again). The Elven civilization stretches the limits of the historically plausible (which it would do in any place of the world), though it actually makes some things make sense. And as for the language, the Proto-Hesperic language of the Bell Beaker people from which Old Albic descends may have been influenced by a Para-Kartvelian substratum spoken by the Neolithic farmers of Central Europe, who seem to have been genetically similar to modern Georgians, so a Para-Kartvelian language (or one just typologically similar to Kartvelian) in Neolithic Central Europe is not entirely implausible.

What is so unique about their civilization?

Their degree of enlightenment, which seems anachronistic about 600 BC (though the ideas shone up already back then, but were not put into practice). They manage to establish a democracy, even with women suffrage and without slavery, unlike ancient Athens; also an economic democracy - the means of production are owned by the people who work with them, either individually (the classic model of the freeholder or self-employed artisan) or collectively (for larger enterprises such as ships, where the ship is collectively owned by the crew, with an elected captain), and all that.

An Athens-like democracy but with women suffrage does seem potentially possible to me, no slavery on the other hand sounds a lot less so.

[Raphael]

Belated well-wishes from me, too, WeepingElf!