Choice of contractions in English
Choice of contractions in English
In sequences of three words where the middle word can contract with either of the other two, is it known if there are any factors which govern which contraction is actually used? As an example, consider "you aren't" versus "you're not"; the first seems more natural to me, but the second isn't particularly unnatural.
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Dialect and context.alice wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:29 am In sequences of three words where the middle word can contract with either of the other two, is it known if there are any factors which govern which contraction is actually used? As an example, consider "you aren't" versus "you're not"; the first seems more natural to me, but the second isn't particularly unnatural.
Different dialects obviously prefer different contraction patterns. But also, the context, and the desire to place emphasis, has a role. So, I'd usually say "you're not listening" - but if someone said "I AM listening", obviously I'd reply "you AREn't listening".
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Whereas when the negated sentence has imperative force, "not" seems more natural:
"I AM going to the party!"
"You're NOT going to the party and that's final!"
This has got to be a very well-studied area. Have you checked Pullum and Huddleston?
"I AM going to the party!"
"You're NOT going to the party and that's final!"
This has got to be a very well-studied area. Have you checked Pullum and Huddleston?
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What is that?
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In my dialect it is normal to use -n't whenever possible except for with am, must, shall, or ought, unless negation is being specifically emphasized or a higher register is being used.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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He's talking about The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language (2002) by Rodney Huddleston and Geoffrey Pullum (of Language Log fame) (eds.). It's an English grammar 1800+ pages long, a wonder of a book.
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It costs at least £200. What does he think?
I know Pullum more as the co-author of the Phonetic Symbol Guide.
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According to Carter and McCarthy's 2006 Cambridge grammar of English:
So they would argue that:
[*] She's not coming
Is more common than:
[*] She isn't coming
While on the other hand:
[*] This bolt isn't big enough
Is more common than:
[*] This bolt's not big enough
With the verb be [...], there is a choice of contracted negative form in the present tense [...].
In informal spoken contexts, when the subject is a pronoun, the preference is overwhelmingly for the forms with 's not/'re not. When the subject is a lexical noun phrase, the choice is more open, but with a strong preference for the isn't/aren't forms:
So they would argue that:
[*] She's not coming
Is more common than:
[*] She isn't coming
While on the other hand:
[*] This bolt isn't big enough
Is more common than:
[*] This bolt's not big enough
auno ie nasi porh notthiai îsond
i me aiargaui ô melis miurcir
i me aiargaui ô melis miurcir
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That actually sounds right for me at least, with personal pronouns receiving -'m/-'s/-'re not but nouns and other pronouns taking isn't/aren't by default in everyday speech.
Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Doing some quick Google searches, I think they're right on the pronouns, wrong on the nouns.
E.g. "you aren't" - 55m
"you're not" - 325m
Other pronouns are similar, though it's not as stark with he/she.
But: "not good" - 82m
"isn't good" - 19m
And similarly with some other common adjectives.
E.g. "you aren't" - 55m
"you're not" - 325m
Other pronouns are similar, though it's not as stark with he/she.
But: "not good" - 82m
"isn't good" - 19m
And similarly with some other common adjectives.
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What nouns did you test? I got 130K for "my cat isn't" but just 6.3K for "my cat's not." (I figured the internets talk a lot about cats.)
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His post implies that he didn't test any nouns at all, but instead tested some common adjectives, presumably under the assumption that a phrase like "isn't good" would always be preceded by a noun, which obviously isn't true.
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Yeah, I was doing that in about 5 minutes. Taking another 5, with some common nouns, X's not is less common than X isn't, as the website says. But X is not is far more common (like, by two orders of magnitude) than either.
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I think I tend towards X's not rather than X isn't, which I think is typical of the far north of England iirc (similarly "don't" is "divven't" in Geordie and nearby varieties).
Also related, but with contraction of "will" it seems I contract it more contexts than many people, because I keep getting red underlines when I write things like "I wonder if anyone'll respond" or "it seems no-one'll do it" or even "this man'll do it", which are absolutely perfectly grammatical for me and people in my area.
Also related, but with contraction of "will" it seems I contract it more contexts than many people, because I keep getting red underlines when I write things like "I wonder if anyone'll respond" or "it seems no-one'll do it" or even "this man'll do it", which are absolutely perfectly grammatical for me and people in my area.
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Y'all'll fit right in around here.Frislander wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:30 amAlso related, but with contraction of "will" it seems I contract it more contexts than many people, because I keep getting red underlines when I write things like "I wonder if anyone'll respond" or "it seems no-one'll do it" or even "this man'll do it", which are absolutely perfectly grammatical for me and people in my area.
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For me, and from what it seems, most people here, will will contract to -'ll in almost all cases except when emphasized or when negated.Frislander wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:30 am Also related, but with contraction of "will" it seems I contract it more contexts than many people, because I keep getting red underlines when I write things like "I wonder if anyone'll respond" or "it seems no-one'll do it" or even "this man'll do it", which are absolutely perfectly grammatical for me and people in my area.
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Yaaludinuya siima d'at yiseka wohadetafa gaare.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
Ennadinut'a gaare d'ate eetatadi siiman.
T'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa t'awraa.
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Contracting will to 'll is way more common in speech than in writing.
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