Tensed adjectives?
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Re: Tensed adjectives?
Do you happen to know what if any other "clausal" material can end up in these nouns? E.g., objects, adverbs, negation....zompist wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:25 pm In Nuuchahnulth, nouns can take tense affixes, e.g. house+past = 'what used to be a house', grandfather+past = '(my) late grandfather'. But it may be more accurate to say that roots can take both noun-like and verb-like affixes, the 'outermost' ones determining the syntactic class.
I suspect with context (e.g., in the course of a description of a mug hitting the ground after falling from a table) you'd understand it as intransitive.Ryan of Tinellb wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:36 pm To me, the breaking mug is either meaningless/ungrammatical, or would be a "mug used for breaking". That is, break has to be taken as a transitive verb.
Re: Tensed adjectives?
As I said in my post, non-verbal adjectives do form a very small closed class in Korean. These can only be tensed by deriving verbal forms. (The example I gave was 새 /say/ > 새롭다 /saylopta/, -롭다 /lopta/ being a common derivational suffix for descriptive verbs (e.g. 슬기 /sulki/ "intelligence" > 슬기롭다 /sulkilopta/ "intelligent").)
Re: Tensed adjectives?
Really? The semantics are so strong that I see no difference between it and "the collapsing wall".Ryan of Tinellb wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:36 pmTo me, the breaking mug is either meaningless/ungrammatical, or would be a "mug used for breaking". That is, break has to be taken as a transitive verb.
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Re: Tensed adjectives?
I think I've got it. A breaking heart sounds right, but the breaking of a mug seems too punctual (i.e.: too much a single short event) to allow a progressive meaning. So I guess...Circeus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:26 amReally? The semantics are so strong that I see no difference between it and "the collapsing wall".Ryan of Tinellb wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:36 pmTo me, the breaking mug is either meaningless/ungrammatical, or would be a "mug used for breaking". That is, break has to be taken as a transitive verb.
...was correct.akam chinjir wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:24 am I suspect with context (e.g., in the course of a description of a mug hitting the ground after falling from a table) you'd understand it as intransitive.
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